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  •  I have a daughter also (1+ / 0-)
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    El Tomaso

    I also have a daughter.  I am pro-choice but personally believe that abortion would not be something I would support in my personal family unless the woman was raped, the woman's life was in danger or unless there was proof that the fetus would not be born able to have a good quality of life physically.  

    That doesn't make me narcissistic or arrogant.  That is my personal choice.  My wife and daughter's decision in that regard would be paramount, of course, but be certain that I would do whatever I could to make sure my influence on the decision would be considered.

    This, to me, means pro-choice.  The truth is, there are few in our country that don't believe this way.  Even the liberal/democratic nemesis Jesse Helms believed this way on this issue.  I don't know what all the fuss is about.  Roe v Wade won't be overturned.  Not enough support for that.  Democrats have far bigger fish to fry.

    •  I'ts that very notion that "Democrats have far (3+ / 0-)
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      bigger fish to fry' which creates a lot of the problem here. Fully half of Dems and then some are women, but an issue which concerns women is not important enough to make this one a big fish, and your signalling of that, that women's rights to autonomy are not important enough, and then acting on that belief, as in the Stupak debate, is part of why we are in this fix to begin with since you are signalling that our issues are not important, but of course you need all those women's votes for your separate personal big fish.

    •  The arrogance that I am referring to.... (0+ / 0-)

      Abortion is not my cup of tea either.

      The arrogance that I am referring to is when someone decides to make their personal belief about abortion apply to everyone else.

      Every individual should be able to choose for him/herself where they stand re abortion.  It is not a function of government to dictate what an individual does or decides to do with their body.

      I completely respect your aversion to abortion in your family.  In fact, I applaud it.  I would not respect you if you attempted to force your beliefs about abortion upon others outside your family.


      After all, for progressives, taking one for the team is desirable, but all too often at present, we are taking one from the team.

      by El Tomaso on Mon Jan 03, 2011 at 07:16:33 AM PST

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    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

      but be certain that I would do whatever I could to make sure my influence on the decision would be considered.

      IOW, you'd try to guilt-trip or pressure your wife or daughter out of the abortion. Yeah, you're so "pro-choice."

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