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    reveals the effectiveness of the forced birth movement.

    "Partial birth abortion" is a made up political term, not a medical one. Perhaps you are not familiar with how they managed to get it through Congress, or the disgusting SCOTUS opinion that upheld it. Basically, forced birthers invented a term intended to play on emotions and to invoke graphic and disturbing images. Then Congress issued its Congressional findings that this so-called procedure is never medically necessary, even though the doctors who perform it testified that it is often a safer procedure for women.

    And because the forced birth campaign was so effective at getting the made up term into our national lexicon, even pro-choicers said, "Well, yes, that's one procedure that is too tasteless to protect." And voila! An utterly bullshit term was codified into law.

    "I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism." -- Sarah Palin

    by Kaili Joy Gray on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 12:29:09 PM PST

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    •  "Forced Birth" is also a made up (0+ / 0-)

      political term, not a medical one. And you just gave it credence here.

      •  Um... (3+ / 0-)
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        I never claimed that "forced birth" is a medical term. That would be the difference.

        "I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism." -- Sarah Palin

        by Kaili Joy Gray on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 12:53:58 PM PST

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      •  The difference is that "Partial Birth" (2+ / 0-)
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        is a pseudo-medical term made up by anti-abortion advocates to scare people into restricting abortion rights by appealing to emotion rather than reason.

        "Forced birth" describes the phenomenon of forcing women to carry pregnancies to term against their will. "Pro-choice" advocates warn against the dangers of a society in which a woman is reduced to an incubator for a fetus that has more rights than she does.  

        "Forced birth" is the rhetorical counter for the right wing's insistence that it is "Pro Life" and that women who seek the right to choose are "Pro Abortion."

        The terms you choose to use indicate the side you choose to take.  If you use "partial birth" you might think you're an ally of women's reproductive freedoms, but you're working against us by accepting that rhetoric. It's like when progressives find themselves using the rhetoric of "reverse racism" -- it's just not a progressive thing to say. No matter how you slice it, it's right wing pie.

        •  I vehemently reject your (0+ / 0-)

          argument over the semantics. That's YOUR and YOURS interpretation of how the words are being used and/or perceived.

          I'm not opposed to fighting this fight for the freedom of any citizen to do whatever he/she wants to do as long as they don't break the law doing it.

          It's very simple...if you don't like a law or the lack of a law...work to change it. That's how our country works. Some need to get it through their stubborn heads that personal desires don't mean shit. Change has a very defined and complicated path in the US. It was built that way so that ALL could have a say in how this republic was going to survive or thrive.

    •  Late Term Medically Necessary (1+ / 0-)
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      Termination of Pregnancy - for Medical Reasons.

      Since I know someone who had to make that difficult medical decision - to save the life of the mother - then you look at the Medical Necessity.

      Calling that Difficult Medical Decision - anything else - is just lazy - or brainwashed.

      No Republican voted to agree to the Paycheck Fairness Act - even the Republican Women Hate Women.

      by PAbluestater on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 09:24:26 PM PST

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