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  •  when happens when doing so costs you your urban (1+ / 0-)
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    constituency?

    we have an opportunity to steal a powerful constituency from the people who are running this country into the ground.

    As an outsider who isn't particularly invested in the Democrats or Republicans I'm not entirely sure how successful you guys will be at stealing this issue from the GOP without alienating your own base.  If you had asked me two years ago if you could pull it off I would have said yes, but that was before I had to watch Kirsten Gillibrand supplicate herself before the anti-RKBA crowd just to convince them that she "gets it".  Overnight she went from a A+ NYSRPA (New York State Rifle & Pistol Association) rating to an F, voting against EVERY single piece of pro-gun legislation no matter how small or trivial.

    She felt the need to do that in spite of the fact that she had the full support of the party establishment, a huge pile of cash in the bank and no credible primary challenger.  Having witnessed that I'm extremely skeptical that the Democratic Party as a whole will ever get away from it's anti-gun roots.

    I believe there will always be a handful of pro-RKBA Democrats, just as there are a handful of pro-choice GOP'ers, but they will forever remain in the minority.

    Now someone come along and tell me why I'm wrong, because I'd really like to be on this particular issue.

    There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap box, ballot box, jury box and ammo box. Use in that order.

    by Crookshanks on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 08:33:27 AM PST

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    •  Because (2+ / 0-)
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      The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice!

      (RKBA) Right to Keep and Bear Arms: interested in a DKos RKBA group? Email in profile. Share Our Wealth

      by KVoimakas on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 08:38:56 AM PST

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      •  huh? (1+ / 0-)
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        You didn't answer a single question I asked.

        How do you purpose to seize RKBA from the GOP without alienating your base?  How do you respond to the example of Senator Gillibrand and her completely unnecessary reversal on RKBA?

        There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap box, ballot box, jury box and ammo box. Use in that order.

        by Crookshanks on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 10:46:06 AM PST

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        •  I wasn't really trying to. (2+ / 0-)
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          Guess I'm in a playful mode. Let me put the serious hat back on.

          I don't propose to seize it. I propose to share it. Pro-RKBA on both sides means it doesn't matter who's in office since they're both pro-RKBA.

          I think that just getting the city Dems to STFU about gun control would work. Silence is golden.

          Gillibrand: I have no idea.

          (RKBA) Right to Keep and Bear Arms: interested in a DKos RKBA group? Email in profile. Share Our Wealth

          by KVoimakas on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 10:53:23 AM PST

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    •  sorry i'm late (0+ / 0-)

      & that I've got to keep this short, hands are acting up

      by us i dont mean dem. pols., I mean prog/lib gun owners.  

      we can steal the voters by taking the issue off the table and picking up the actual moderates.

      we can do this by showing up at the range, in increasing numbers, and not hiding who we are.  it will be slow, but all we really have to do to pull gun culture into the center in this country is teach our friends to shoot.

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