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  •  Blackbird control poison (4+ / 0-)
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    The USDA licenses only a single poison as an authorized starlicide or for use as a blackbird control with appropriate permit.  That compound is 3-chloro-4-methylbenzenamine, also known as 3-chloro-p-toluidine hydrochloride (CPTH), or DRC-1339.  Its method of action doesn't induce internal hemorrhage or anything that could be remotely confused for trauma.  At least in the Ozark, AR case, initial necropsy reports that included "no organ damage" actually served to eliminate CPTH poisoning as a cause.

    "We are not entitled to our opinions; we are entitled to our informed opinions. Without research, without background, without understanding, it's nothing."

    by Serpents Choice on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 03:35:02 PM PST

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    •  Sad that it's difficult to trust quick reports (0+ / 0-)

      If the USDA did answer the farmers requests, and baited the Redwinged Blackbirds, like they have the starling, then they would have done so against the MBTA.  They can't admit to doing it.  And, in our world of privatized everything, others could have done it, if it was done at all.

      Unless, of course, the crazies are right and the HAARP did it.

      It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

      by War on Error on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 03:42:12 PM PST

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      •  Just to note (2+ / 0-)
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        The early-report necropsies have been done by a lab working for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission.  If this had been a critical avian management error on the part of the USDA, would a state agency that works primarily with a different part of the federal government anyway (the US Fish and Wildlife Service) have any motivation to cover for the USDA's mistake, or for the illegal actions of third parties?

        Isn't it more reasonable to assume that, in fact, the necropsy results are not consistent with the clearly visible and extraordinarily well-researched signs of CPTH poisoning?

        "We are not entitled to our opinions; we are entitled to our informed opinions. Without research, without background, without understanding, it's nothing."

        by Serpents Choice on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 04:16:28 PM PST

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        •  Actually, it is Wildlife that is quoted in diary (0+ / 0-)

          and their blackbird research w/DRC-1339.

          Sad as it is for thousands of birds to die, if there is a concern for the rice crops, it is understandable.

          I would think the Federal Wildlife and State Wildlife would work together in concert.

          It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

          by War on Error on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 04:29:23 PM PST

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        •  Probably (0+ / 0-)

          "Don't fall or we both go." Derek Hersey 1957-1993

          by ban nock on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 04:35:05 PM PST

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