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  •  Stop fucking whining about this (2+ / 0-)

    God damn, if all Democrats are going to do is whine about hypocrisy, then this country is already a one-party state, and the Repugs have won.

    NOBODY FUCKING CARES! Most voters aren't following this stuff, don't even know what the CBO is or how it works, and just don't give a shit.

    Wonky wonky wonky wonky ... and LOSE.

    Stop this nonsense. The Repugs create the reality, say it in pithy terms, are lock-step in their message discipline (see how long before everyone on the TV starts calling it "job killing"), and nobody in the media gives a shit about calling them on their bullshit.

    Americans don't give a fuck about the deficit. We only care about jobs, healthcare, and the economy. And nobody cares about hypocrisy either.

    Democrats have fallen into the trap of whining about the deficit, so they've lost. Cut that shit out.

    •  If Americans don't care about the deficit... (5+ / 0-)

      then why does the GOP constantly use it as a blunt weapon against any government program they don't like?

      Americans DO care about the deficit. It's just that they are being lied to about what the causes of it are.

      •  Because DEMOCRATS care about it! (0+ / 0-)

        The deficit is a weapon to use against Democrats.

        Responsible governance requires that you take it into account, and deal with it. That's what Democrats do, so we end up feeling limited by it, but Repugs don't, because they don't care about anything except destroying government.

        Come on now, this has been going on for THIRTY YEARS, since Reagan, there is no excuse for still falling for this scam in 2011. Reagan got the Democrats all panicky about deficits, then ran up the hugest deficits ever seen (with military spending).

        I've been around long enough that this shit is getting really old. Stop falling for it!

        •  So what are we supposed to do about it? (0+ / 0-)

          If Americans only care about getting tax cuts and "goodies" from the government, and don't care about responsible governance, then what? We just let the GOP destroy the country, because it would be political suicide to oppose it? Yes, I get why their "strategy" is appealing to offers something for nothing. But it's irresponsible, and bad governance. I still believe that Americans, and not just Democrats, do care about that, if we can break through the lies.

          •  Can we do anyting about it? (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm in a more pessimistic phase around now. If Americans don't care about this wonky CBO hypocrisy, it's pretty clear they don't have any interest in how things actually are at  all, no interest in any kind of reasoned discussion. It's ALL shiny objects and pretty lights.

            And if that's the case, Democrats could MAYBE emulate it. Maybe. Our best hope is to have the reasoned debate amongst ourselves, then jazz it up for TV audiences. It's been done, but I'm not sure it's a long-term winner. If it's going to be a battle between two groups trying to win over uncritical masses with trinkets, we Democrats have a big disadvantage; the Republicans have a ringer, religion. Nothing like religion to motivate blind devotion to a set of incoherent principles.

            "I wish you luck on not hating your parents for mixing up such an unthinkable person." --The frickin´ HP--

            by McWaffle on Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 02:23:35 PM PST

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      •  why does GOP do anything they do (0+ / 0-)

        It's not because of reality on the ground or what a majority of americans are thinking.

      •  Polls Say Otherwise. It's always way, way down (0+ / 0-)

        the list on their priority, even after being told repreatedly and at great expense that they are supposed to believe it is the number one problem.

        They also believe taxing the rich is the first rememdy by a large margin.  

        It is not Class Warfare. It is more than that; it is a war for the survival of democracy.

        by Into The Woods on Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 02:10:09 PM PST

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