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  •  one thing Kindles can't give you... (4+ / 0-)

    ... is the satisfaction of looking at, physically, how much you've read.

    If you're reading some very long book, like Count of Monte Cristo or something, part of the satisfaction of the experience, for me, is looking at that inch or two of paper I've already read.  There's a lot of satisfaction with it... it's like looking back on work you've done.

    With Kindle, the damn thing always looks the same.  

    With books you can look at a shelf full of books and know "I've read this shelf and this shelf and this shelf" and feel satisfaction, and look at the shelves you haven't read yet and feel anticipation, "I still have all of these to read."

    But a Kindle - no matter how big your library, no matter how much you've read or not - still looks like an oversized credit card.

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 07:21:11 PM PST

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    •  hahahah! (0+ / 0-)

      I've never ever received satisfaction from a number of pages.

      Plenty of small books pack a brazillion times more content than plenty of large books (say Proofs And Refutations vs Middlemarch, for one easy example).

      May as well take satisfaction from books with the largest typeface. lols

      I'm gonna go eat a steak. And fuck my wife. And pray to GOD - hatemailapalooza, 052210

      by punditician on Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 07:25:01 PM PST

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    •  Wrong. (3+ / 0-)
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      My Nook tells me exactly how many pages I've read and how many are left to read.  

      What this whole thing comes down to is that you don't like e-readers.  That's certainly your right and privilege.  But it is presumptuous in the extreme to tell me and others that we are somehow contributing to the decline of Western culture because we own and like the things.

      •  The Kindle Has a Bar Graph Thingy (1+ / 0-)
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        at the bottom of the page that shows your progress expressed as a percentage since pagination isn't possible with an e-book due to the user's ability to change font size and line spacing.

        "ingratiation and access . . . are not corruption." -- Justice Kennedy (Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 2010)

        by Limelite on Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 09:18:33 PM PST

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        •  This is one of (1+ / 0-)
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          the things I don't like about ereaders, as it makes research difficult.  In many translated books the pagination of the foreign language orifinal appears in the translated text.  This practice needs to start with ereaders.

      •  I freely admit I'm a Luddite... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...but if you think there aren't ramifications to these things, you're fooling yourself.

        Borders Bookstores will likely be no more by summer.  And libraries are likely to be a thing of the past in the next decade or so, at least for the most part.  The publishing industry is also in heavy decline. Dorchester Publishing, one of the biggest paperback houses in the country, recently konked out and went e-book and print-on-demand only.  Their roster of writers left, because they can't make a living off of e-book sales, and they're having a hard time finding new homes.

        These are all a lot of jobs eliminated, and a lot of opportunity for getting information taken away from the public, especially the people too poor to buy books.

        I'm sure I'm alarmist and this whole "download everything" revolution may not be the total disaster I think it'll be, but it's not going to be pretty.  The music and film industries have already been hammered by it, and books are next.  

        They've managed to do what they wanted and make this a "subscription society."  Most of our paychecks will now go just to maintaining access to things, and we won't even get material goods for it.  Don't keep paying up, and everything you've worked for will be gone... and there's going to be a lot less ways to pay for it because whole industries - retail, publishing, factories, etc. - will be shut down.  I'm afraid that's what we're heading toward in the next few decades.

        I'll be happy to be wrong...

        "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

        by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Jan 07, 2011 at 07:52:04 AM PST

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