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  •  also, the "federalist laws" stuff (1+ / 0-)
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    was apparently in reference to actual 18th century federalists as opposed to "the feds." In other words, he rejected the Constitution as a whole. Not exactly Tea Party rhetoric. Just crazy fringe anti-government rhetoric.

    •  No, I don't buy it (3+ / 0-)
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      shrike, agnostic, Deicide

      He rejects federal reserve currency because we've left the gold standard.  That comes from Ron Paul style libertarianism, a key constituency in the Tea Party.

      I think his rejection of "federalist laws" is an echo of tentherism rhetoric.

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      by litho on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 06:11:04 AM PST

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      •  this is via Andy Sullivan (2+ / 0-)
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        It's important to note that Loughner rejects not simply current lawmakers and those now in power but the Constitution itself : "The majority of citizens in the United States have never read the United States Constitution.  You don't have to accept the federalist laws. Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws."* (Loughner also rejects God, and says that his religion was marked down as None on his army application.)  So while those now in power are apparently worthy of murder, so that "revolutionaries" can take "control of the land and laws," their illegitimacy comes not from corrupting the Constitution but from executing it.

        Make of that what you will.

        As for the "gold standard" stuff, that's one of the areas where InfoWars/neo-anarchist types intersect with Tea Partiers.

        •  Paul and Beck, in other words, picked up (1+ / 0-)
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          the monetary conspiracy theory nonsense from more "traditional" survivalist, anti-semitic and anti-government radicals first, not the other way around.

        •  I don't know how you're interpreting (2+ / 0-)
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          the comment about "treasonous laws," but to me that's a reference to laws that he believes violate the Constitution.

          Far from rejecting it, I read that passage as upholding it.

          Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
          ¡Boycott Arizona!

          by litho on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 06:19:17 AM PST

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