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  •  You have a very simplistic model of causation (4+ / 0-)

    that you seem to be working off of.  A person can be completely unhinged and stilll influenced by the narrative sea in which they swim.  Why now?  Why a democrat? Why get obsessed with Giffords?  Words matter, and our entire society has been subjected to a relentless stream of becking from the right wing talking heads.

    Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty.--Jacob Bronowski www.WisdomCommons.org

    by ValerieTarico on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 07:21:57 PM PST

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    •  For all we know he was also influenced (1+ / 0-)
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      by the accusation that Bush deliberately lied to start a war.

      There is no linkage whatsoever between Palin saying that seat was vulnerable and someone who had already been nursing a grudge for three years -- who didn't bother to vote trying to kill her.

      Why a Democrat, probably because she was his congresswoman.

      •  "Accusation" that Bush lied to start a war (6+ / 0-)

        This is a special sort of "accusation" that is called in obscure and forgotten backwaters that  aren't up to date and with the times, a "fact".  Yes, the idea of facts is archaic, but sometimes bears relevance on a situation nonetheless.

        Hegemony is always electable.

        by ActivistGuy on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 07:28:59 PM PST

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        •  We had the discussion on 'facts' (1+ / 0-)
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          on another thread.  If Bush lied, so did Clinton.  Everyone thought there were WMD's, but it's ok to make incendiary charges if you are talking about Bush, or write diaries chuckling about the fact that due to his devistating health issues Dick Cheney doesn't have a pulse.

          Hostile rhetoric isn't limited to one side in this debate.

          •  Niger uranium? (5+ / 0-)

            Aluminum tubes?  Saddam in league with al-Qaeda?

            Oh, and don't think that telling me that I need to acknowledge that Clinton lied is an effective technique to shut me up.  I carry no partisan torches, and as Clinton was the Democratic president that ratified Reaganism as the hegemonic ideology, you'll find me no fan of his.

            Hegemony is always electable.

            by ActivistGuy on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 07:39:58 PM PST

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          •  Bush wanted to disguise an airplane as (2+ / 0-)
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            a UN observer plane and fly it over Iraq in a manner that would draw hostile fire and provide a rationale for war. This is just one of many of the things Bush did that remove any doubt that Bush is and was a liar and a criminal.

            Seriously, William, you'd have to have really been asleep for the past decade to not know Bush is a liar.

            As far as I know, due to the medical technology keeping him alive, Dick Cheney doesn't have a pulse in the normal sense of the word.

            I am all for civility but civility isn't achieved by ignoring reality.

          •  In that case, if i said that republicans like you (0+ / 0-)

            should be drawn and quartered etc (using archaic language here to soften my point) then that would be ok with you since there's no cause and effect involved, it would be my right to free speech to engage in a relentless series of mouthings for the death of republicans-- the equivalent of what we hear on a daily basis from limbaugh, beck, coulter, savage etc.

            Now i'm ready for your response which I predict will be somehow the left does it too neiner neiner so that makes it all ok.

            The Great Recession is a happy happy joy joy time to drop your obsolete skills and train for new ones.

            by doinaheckuvanutjob on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12:49 PM PST

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