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  •  LOL. (4+ / 0-)
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    That's the attitude that loses elections. There's no future in opposing a basic Constitutional right that is exercised by millions of citizens.

    Regulation efforts that consist of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally unstable have been proven more effective than blanket bans, which affect only those willing to abide by them. We need to enforce the laws we have before we make too many new ones.

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 12:34:28 PM PST

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    •  It's only been a constitutional right (0+ / 0-)

      for 2 years.  And even then, by a 5-4 vote (all 5 were right-wing gasbags).  And that 5-4 vote overturned all prior case law that said there was no individual constitutional right to own guns.

      We need to enforce the laws we have before we make too many new ones.

      I know you said you're not in the NRA, but that was the ultimate NRA talking point.

      The laws we have are enforced.  Why do you think the states with gun control have the lowest firearm death rates, while the states with the least gun control have the highest firearm death rates (DC clearly an exception in this list given 98.2 percent of its guns come from outside the District).

      If the laws aren't enforced, why aren't gun-lovers in DC buying their guns in DC?

      If the laws aren't enforced, why is it virtually impossible to get a concealed weapons permit in New Jersey, Illinois, Maryland, and Hawaii?

      •  I know its late, and the diary fell off the chart (1+ / 0-)
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        but I can't leave this to misinform people.

        Your link does not support your contention. If you look at divorce rates, it makes the same trend line. Thus, by your logic I can validly ask, "Why do the states with the least gun control [an assumption you make] have the highest divorce rates?"

        Lax gun control laws must cause divorce. And dozens of other correlations that are irrelevant.

        You have a long way to go to prove that the states with the highest gun homicide rates are that way because of the laws and not the culture. Its the culture that causes both.

        Let every American... swear by the blood of the Revolution, never to violate ...the laws ... and never to tolerate their violation by others. A. Lincoln

        by PhotogHog on Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 04:00:24 PM PST

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      •  Nope, its been a Constitutional right forever (0+ / 0-)

        You see thats how Supreme Court decisions work as ruled by the Supreme Court itself.  If something they rule as Constitutional then it always has been, if something they rule is unConstitutional then it always has been.  Otherwise they would be creating law by having its effect changed.

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