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  •  A number of false arguments here (0+ / 0-)

    I clearly understand your position. It's just that your arguments are biased and incomplete.

    I am not at all anti-gun. I am, however, well trained in gun safety and the practical use of guns in military, law enforcement, and civilian environments. I have also witnessed the tragic results that happen when mistakes and poor judgements are made.

    Everyone needs to clearly understand just how dangerous weapons and ammo are. I'm sure that you have a basic understanding of this fundamental fact. It's just that there are far too many who don't respect the dangers and behave accordingly.

    Neither the guns, nor the fact that we carry them, pose any risk to anyone.

    This is patently false. This is the very first lesson I teach. I reinforce this fact all the time. Regardless, I often find myself forcefully adjusting people's arms even at a gun range. No matter how many times you repeat the fundamentals, somebody will unconsciously turn the muzzle away from the target or swing it in the direction of another person. I've witnessed several close calls when weapons accidentally discharged in these moments of inattention.

    The simple fact that a deadly weapon is present is a risk. It may be a small risk, but it is a risk. Even when someone is a safety fanatic and has taken all precautions, there is still a risk. Even a slingshot is likely to cause serious injuries. These devices are dangerous. If they weren't you wouldn't need to lock them up.

    There are indirect risks. Firearms of all kinds are favored by burglars. Knowledge that guns are in your house increases the odds of a burglary ("my dad's 1917 Danzig Mauser" - I can buy a lot of heroin with that). If a mugger knows you are carrying a gun, you are a more desirable target and more likely to be killed in the process. It's because your firearm presents a danger to the mugger. Muggers depend on surprise and rarely confront face to face. A purse snatcher is an example. A baseball bat to the back of your head won't be prevented by you carrying a gun.

    The idea that you can protect yourself during a robbery by having gun nearby hasn't worked out so well in a significant number of actual events. Burglars are rarely armed. You may not be alert at the moment you awaken. The instant that you reach for a drawer near you bed, the burgler either runs or forcefully blocks your path to your gun. The burglar is much more likely to want to steal your gun or, in some cases, will threaten or shoot you with your own gun.

    Children and visitors to your home increase the risk, especially if they're unsupervised and untrained.

    I can go on and on.

    My point is that you believe you are more safe. You feel safe. The risks diminish your actual level of safety but you still feel safe. So it's ok.

    This is an example of a cognitive bias that seems to be built in to the human brain. Surveys have shown that something like 80% of drivers insist that they're better than the average driver. This is obviously false, but even when people are informed of this bias, the survey results don't change.

    I won't ask about the psychological aspects of your comment. Suffice it to say that the all-or-none thoughts ("If the government banned all...") and the slippery slope fears are examples of logical fallacies.

    The straw man argument of "If it became illegal to own our shotgun" is laughable to me, but I suspect that you actually fear that something like this could happen.

    This explains why you own and carry guns and why you seem to be compelled to defend your position and "protect" your rights. The fact is that there is no threat to the 2nd Amendment. Won't happen. You own nothing that would fall within the AWB should it be reinstated. Even laser-coded id markers on bullets wouldn't affect you. Why are you so worried, then?

    "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

    by GrumpyOldGeek on Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 03:06:03 PM PST

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      I am glad we are much better trained than your students, apparently, ever will be.

      I'm also glad you don't know us, because you act like you know so much about us and our motivations when you really know nothing at all. We are happier not knowing you.

      "She's petite, extremely beautiful, and heavily armed." -1995 Michael Moore documentary Canadian Bacon

      by Tom Seaview on Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 05:58:12 PM PST

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    •  Muggers don't target individuals they know are (0+ / 0-)


      Muggers target individuals who are

      1. Expected to carry a large amount of cash or other valuables
      1. Expected to put up no resistence. (Aka the easy mark)

      Firearms are stolen in burglaries not mugging attempts and not hot burglaries eitehr - they occur when the owners are thought to not be at home.

      Police statistics or just talking with criminals will reveal this.

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