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  •  It doesn't control costs (3+ / 0-)

    That, and the big subsidies, were the price the administration paid to get kabuki opposition from the health insurers.  Anybody trying to convince you the bill controls costs is going to sound confusing, because they're lying to you.

    There are a few features that will exert a modest downward pressure on costs, but the health care cost curve is so steeply upward that the bill would have had to be far more radical to actually achieve that goal.

    •  To be clear there are two key "costs" that (1+ / 0-)
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      often get confused with one another in the debate.  There is the direct cost to the consumer in monthly premiums - and if they get sick their out of pocket costs; and then there is the cost of providing healthcare.  It is the first - the direct cost to consumers - that is creating the anxiety particularly in this economy - although it was pretty upsetting before the crash as well...

      The second is a much more complex problem to unravel, but I think that one of the major contributing factors in inflationary pricing stems from the private insurers being unreliable about paying - so to cover, providers are forced to charge higher prices for their services to make sure that when someone's insurer declines to pay, they aren't going to go bankrupt.  It is a vicious cycle that still hasn't been properly addressed.

      •  wrong. It is the system that allows (0+ / 0-)

        doctors to order what ever they want. So too many procedures are ordered, many valueless, some even harmful.  But it is also the uninsured that get treated — and that mainly affects hospitals.

        Insurance companies hardly ever go bankrupt. I can;'t think of one. People who buy from a scam company
        usually find their insurance card isn;t accepted by anyone. They are told to pay and file their own claim with their company.

        When more than a million people who are hospitalized each year suffer some preventable medical error which needs even more care to be rectified — if it can be — you have an incredible waste of money as well as pain, agony and death. This sloppy, but expensive care kills over 200,000 each year.

        I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours. Barack Obama

        by samddobermann on Thu Jan 20, 2011 at 01:50:59 AM PST

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