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  •  "China, China, China!" (3+ / 0-)
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    This is a bit late to the diary, but a telling front page story in the Seattle Times:

    Patterns shifting in sales to China

    Yet the nature of that trade is subtly changing, reflecting China's appetite for materials to feed its booming industries.

    What we're shipping from Seattle to ports such as Shanghai are more raw materials, food and basic commodities, things such as timber, copper and silicon.

    "It looks like we're a Third World country," said Trade Development Alliance of Greater Seattle President Bill Stafford.

    The Village will consider the shift of exports from finished goods to raw materials a great success...

    Whom do you blame more? The rattlesnake, or the bipartisan guy who put it in your sleeping bag?

    by chuckvw on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:09:13 PM PST

    •  Agreed (2+ / 0-)
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      but the problem is without protection our country will die, except, eventually China will demand more and more, thus driving the corporations to seek other countries with low level wage expectation such as Viet Nam and India.  The corporations are not competitive, they are predatory and in the end the plantation owners will have their crops, but no one who can afford them.  

      Certain violations of the social compact are too terrible to utter aloud: this is the meaning of the word unspeakable. Herman.

      by zaka1 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:21:29 PM PST

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      •  I said the Village will think it a great success (2+ / 0-)
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        I certainly don't think so.  Selling our raw materials to fuel Chinese industries instead of our own is just another step in our third-worldization.

        Whom do you blame more? The rattlesnake, or the bipartisan guy who put it in your sleeping bag?

        by chuckvw on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:26:36 PM PST

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        •  I agreed (1+ / 0-)
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          with you, I don't think selling raw materials to fuel Chinese industries is a great idea either.  I'm sorry if that didn't come across in my comment.  

          I think we are doing great harm to our own country by not protecting and keeping industry alive in our own country.  Sadly, I think we are getting pass the tipping point of turning our economy around and thriving again.  

          Certain violations of the social compact are too terrible to utter aloud: this is the meaning of the word unspeakable. Herman.

          by zaka1 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 02:01:38 PM PST

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          •  If we had a government that governed (3+ / 0-)
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            in our interests, we might have a shot, although I agree that it's pretty late in the game...

            But, of course, we don't.

            Whom do you blame more? The rattlesnake, or the bipartisan guy who put it in your sleeping bag?

            by chuckvw on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 02:11:39 PM PST

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            •  No we have a government (2+ / 0-)
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              That sells us Bullshit like "competitiveness". We all must re-train you know.

              "The rich will strive to establish their dominion and enslave the rest. They always did... they always will. . ." Governeur Morris

              by Dave925 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 02:49:04 PM PST

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            •  "Whaddaya mean 'we,' little man?" (2+ / 0-)
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              chuckvw, zaka1

              It's the principal-agent problem, and it's been spreading like a blight through every aspect of our increasingly abstraction-based economy and political system, probably since 1789 or before.  Human social systems may be at least partly cyclical, and the blight may only stop growing when it kills its host.

              Thumbs up on the sig.

    •  Once the Tea Party clowns come to power, ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... and effectively restore the Cheney-Rumsfeld wing of Rethuglicans, many here may not just welcome our Chinese overlords bankers, but may actually pray that they just go ahead and repossess the whole works.

      Hobson offers you a choice: rule by

      1. a gang of  flying monkeys and inbred gun fetishists commanded by Ms. Wasilla Word Salad herself, with the Bush-Cheney-Carlyle cabal pulling the wizard's levers (no longer bothering to keep the curtain pulled), or
      1. an equally brutal, but calmer and more predictable, gang of Big-Money thugs.

      Interesting times, yow!

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