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  •  Saying that rich people deserve more (2+ / 0-)
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    artisan, jamess
    because they pay more isn't all that different than saying poor people deserve little or nothing if they slaved away their entire lives exploited by a system that benefitted greatly by paying them less than they needed to survive, let alone save for retirement. We all benefit by cheap prices resulting from the work of minimum wage workers who could not possibly be expected to save up for retirement on their own. Should there be no floor at all? Is it acceptable for people who do honest work their entire lives to be merely kicked out on the street when they are too old or broken to work?
    •  Low-wage workers (2+ / 0-)
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      Clem Yeobright, jamess

      don't get "little or nothing;" they get a benefit relative to the amount they paid into the system. It's still possible to qualify for food stamps, etc, while on Social Security.
         The idea of Social Security from the start was to keep it distinguished from a "welfare program" in order to get maximal support from the public. "It's not a welfare benefit, it's money you earned and paid into the system so it would be available when you needed it." The (mostly) Republican opponents since Roosevelt's time have tried to portray it as a welfare system, and that meme is always in people's heads, even when they know better. High-income workers don't "deserve" more; they earned more, and consequently paid more into the system. That's how it was intended to work from the time it was established.

      -5.12, -5.23

      We are men of action; lies do not become us.

      by ER Doc on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 03:57:11 PM PST

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