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  •  At this point, I don't think the President (8+ / 0-)

    quite understands that he no longer has anything to lose except the next election, and he's not going to lose the next election because he came out for LGBT rights. I really don't think he gets that it would be largely seen as brave and just and the right thing to do--if the polling on DOMA and DADT can be believed.

    I wish I understood why marriage equality is such a controversial issue. My marriage--or lack there of--is none of anyone's goddamned business but mine. And, in this case, the President's.

    Mdmslle to commonmass: "You're a household name around here". Who knew.

    by commonmass on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:24:09 PM PST

    •  Good point - if President Obama loses in 2012 (7+ / 0-)

      I highly doubt it will be because he endorsed marriage equality.  By 2012, I suspect we may make even more progress with public opinion.  He may soon be out of the mainstream if he doesn't change sides.

      Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I've been busy destroying the sanctity of marriage and eroding the moral fabric of society.

      by Chrislove on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:28:53 PM PST

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      •  I'm certainly not hoping he's going to lose (8+ / 0-)

        But I agree, his position on marriage equality seems to be designed to avoid alienating people who are never going to vote for him anyway. If I were the President, I would be way more concerned about my base right now than some bible-thumping bigot in Alabama who would vote for a piece of country-fried steak before he'd vote for Obama.

        Sorry, that's not fair to country-fried steak. I lived in Texas long enough to develop a taste for it. There, though, it's called chicken-fried steak. And it descends from the Wiener Schnitzel, via the many Czech and German immigrants who populate central Texas. Sorry for the OT here. ;)

        Mdmslle to commonmass: "You're a household name around here". Who knew.

        by commonmass on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 01:45:06 PM PST

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      •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

        but I don't think he will come out for it before the election, and it wouldn't be a good thing to make Marriage Equality about Obama and thus being against Obama means being against marriage rights.  That part would suck, but I would be glad to see him come out in support before then, even if that is a risk (to us, more than to him) in some ways.

    •  I think he understands this very well (2+ / 0-)
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      he no longer has anything to lose except the next election

      And sees marriage equality as a net vote loser in 2012, from the perspective of January 2011.

      Maybe that equation will change. When it does, we expect to see his views to "evolve."

      My deepest gratitude to all the Kossacks that supported my fundraiser for marriage equality in Delaware.

      by Scott Wooledge on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 05:29:40 PM PST

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