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  •  And speaking of facts (5+ / 0-)

    They are slowly coming out:

    Quantico spokesman Col. Thomas V. Johnson says the car was towed after the pair could not provide proof of insurance and guards found the vehicle's license plates had expired. He says both weren't detained.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    Nothing in Jane's tweets about expired plates/registration.

    Unbelievable.

    •  In my State (1+ / 0-)
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      3goldens

      Expired Tags and no ins. proof would just be a ticket.

      We do not forgive our candidates their humanity, therefore we compel them to appear inhuman

      by twigg on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 08:20:42 PM PST

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      •  key word "in your state" (2+ / 0-)
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        arielle, twigg

        But, its not a state. Its a military base with its own rules.

        For example:

        http://milcom.jag.af.mil/...

        and the spokesman says they were not detained. Didn't her tweets say she was detained?

        •  I understand that (2+ / 0-)
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          mint julep, nippersdad

          On the other hand, they were entering Quantico ... They were hardly going to run off, and could very easily have been challenged over the minor motoring offence after the visit.

          We do not forgive our candidates their humanity, therefore we compel them to appear inhuman

          by twigg on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 08:34:08 PM PST

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          •  Well, that appears to be what happened (2+ / 0-)
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            twigg, mahakali overdrive

            According to the Marines, they weren't detained. They had no Proof of Insurance, and expired plates. They were probably ticketed and their vehicle was towed.

            Here's another example at another base:

            IMPOUNDING/HOLDING PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES

            6.1. General. The Joint Services Vehicle Impound Lot (JSVIL) located on Camp Kinser is
            responsible for impounding vehicles on a long-term basis, for evidential reasons, or pending final
            disposition for abandoned vehicles on Okinawa. Temporary vehicle impounds on KAB will be
            handled by Security Forces IAW this instruction. All other impounds on KAB are conducted
            IAW MCBJO 11340.1B. This chapter provides an outline of the standards and procedures
            regarding towing, inventorying, searching, impounding, and disposing of POVs. This policy is
            based on:

            6.2.2.16. Vehicle is being operated with any of the following discrepancies:

            6.2.2.17. Expired JCI.

            6.2.2.18. Expired PDI or insurance failing to meet the minimum coverage required by
            USFJI 31-205.

            http://docs.google.com/...

          •  And here's the specific Quantico policy: (2+ / 0-)
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            Rich in PA, mahakali overdrive
            1. Immediate Impounds. Vehicles which may be immediately towed or impounded by the Provost Marshal Office, with or without the consent of the owner, fall into one or more of the following categories:

            g. There is no reasonable way to establish ownership of the motor vehicle, that is, it has no state registration, no DD Form 2220, Department of Defense Registered Vehicle Decal; no temporary or visitor pass, no vehicle identification number, and no other documents in the vehicle that could be used to determine ownership.
            h. Illegally aboard base or registered to a suspended or revoked driver.

            www.quantico.usmc.mil/download.aspx?... MOTOR%20VEHICLE%20TRAFFIC%20SUPERVISION%205560...

      •  In my state, it's an impounded car that you don't (1+ / 0-)
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        mahakali overdrive

        get back till all are taken care of.

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        by second gen on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 09:52:51 PM PST

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        •  I wrote about this at length in the original (4+ / 0-)
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          twigg, second gen, indubitably, Deep Texan

          diary. It made me scratch my head because I'd driven transportation on and off a military base 2-6 X per day and it's very standard issue. All of it. Is it right? No. But you kind of want to make sure you have proper registration, plates, insurance, identification, and all of that before trying to get onto a military site. Also, they can search you at will. And they can detain you for a long time as well. For little things. If you don't have a passenger who is from the base, it gets hairier. If conditions change, likewise. You get a cranky guard, ditto. I got walloped once for getting swiped by a military vehicle, not that it was my fault.

          This is such a non-issue. All of it. She should drive back and give them the petitions again with a car that isn't suspect. They're not likely to hold this against her. It strikes me as very, very routine. Maybe I've just driven on and off military bases a lot.

          I appreciate her efforts and thinks she should go back and try again. Really not worth making a scene over in that it could make it worse when she tries next time. This is just very normal behavior on a base. I suspected right away that she had some problem with her car or identification (or that Mr. House did).

          "There are always two parties; the establishment and the movement." - Emerson

          by mahakali overdrive on Sun Jan 23, 2011 at 11:26:48 PM PST

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