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  •  Couldn't agree more... (4+ / 0-)

    The current background check process is a joke. I can only imagine how overloaded these systems are - and underfunded...

    Good policy is good politics

    by AZ Independent on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 07:17:56 AM PST

    •  Actually, it's pretty good... (3+ / 0-)
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      I've seen it at work and watched people get denied or put on hold and I rarely hang at gun shops so it must be fairly common. And it's fast, usually 30 seconds. But like any database, it's only as good as the input data. So what's lacking is a timely appeal method for people wrongly on or wrongly off the list and a method omitting the list from HIPPA requirements and inducing mental health reporting.
    •  what's good about it should be kept; what it (4+ / 0-)

      needs though is a fuller funding and more people handling real-time data entry IMO.

      Heck, make it a new WPA priority to have folks keeping the databases up ... people need the work.

      Meanwhile ... bear in mind that the system as designed and the system as operated aren't the same, eh?

      Not forgetting that gun control laws have a base in keeping certain groups of people "in their place," it's not a bad idea to enforce certain laws.

      The earliest law prohibiting inexpensive handguns was enacted in Tennessee, in the form of the "Army and Navy" law, passed in 1879, shortly after the 14th amendment and Civil Rights Act of 1875; previous laws invalidated by the constitutional amendment had stated that black freedmen could not own or carry any manner of firearm. The Army and Navy law prohibited the sale of "belt or pocket pistols, or revolvers, or any other kind of pistols, except army or navy pistols," which were prohibitively expensive for black freedmen and poor whites to purchase.[5] These were large pistols in .36 caliber ("Navy") or .44 caliber ("Army"), and were the military issue cap and ball blackpowder revolvers used during the Civil War by both Union and Confederate ground troops. The effect of the Army and Navy law was to restrict handgun possession to the upper economic classes.[6]

      Those laws are much more nearly the sort of thing I'd expect OSHA and maybe NIOSH to be enforcing than BATF, though -- and they'd be very similar to the laws I expect to have enforced against deliberately selling contaminated food or mechanically-faulty and therefore dangerous automobiles.

      LBJ & Lady Bird, Sully Sullenberger, Molly Ivins, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, Drew Brees: Texas is No Bush League! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 12:07:54 PM PST

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