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  •  I hear that new grads with teaching certificates (0+ / 0-)

    are substitute teaching now a days, so I guess you have to ask yourself where you are looking at your facts, because if you are 63 I bet you are making close to 100k if you are in California, meanwhile new grads are scratching for the minimum wage.

    •  depends on where you are (4+ / 0-)
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      and how many teachers are being laid off.  I do not make 6 figures or even that close to it.  This year I have lost 7,000 in stipends, been furloughed 4 days, gotten no step increase or cost of living.  

      One reason some want to do away with tenure and union protections is to be able to easily fire more senior teachers without cause and hire cheaper, less experienced teachers.

      We will be losing teaching slots next year, the way things look, because of a real financial crisis.  And class sizes will go up.  How much we do not know.  There will be an impact upon learning.

      Not sure how much more some of my classes can go up.  I have 39 desks in the room and 2 of the classes have 38.

      We'll see.

      "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

      by teacherken on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 11:58:02 AM PST

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      •  I bet you can take your retirement (0+ / 0-)

        And if you don't make 100k I bet you are still making enough where you have been proud enough to talk about it to your family and friends.

        But times have changed.

        I am sure you are good teacher, and you have a lot to give still, but California can hire two teachers for your salary.

        Do you think that the students deserve to have 38 students per class?

        You use the term "fire senior teachers" but you have had a good run, take the "early" retirement.

        Find another way to give, and make a place for the next generation of teachers.

        •  what early retirement? (0+ / 0-)

          Find another way to give, and make a place for the next generation of teachers.

          Do you realize the politicians are trying to take away teacher pensions?

          Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

          by Dirtandiron on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 03:35:06 PM PST

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        •  you'd lose your bet (0+ / 0-)

          so you would soon be as broke as you are silly -  and I am being gentle in the words I use to describe your participation on this thread

          "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

          by teacherken on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 03:45:06 PM PST

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          •  Apparently you are out for yourself... (0+ / 0-)

            And you're a lot more kind than you are honest.  

            I am a teacher too, but I make my money by the hour. If I have a bad lesson I can be fired on the spot. The only security I have is that there is a lot of people who need what I teach.

            So, you know how much sympathy I have for someone who makes as much money as you do and has two months off paid. None!

            Your "poor" union boy trip is fraud.

            And let me tell you, I know a thing or two about business and unions, and if businesses can cut somebody off the books, the sooner the better they will.

            You are prime candidate for early retirement, so I'm almost sure that you have been offered some kind of deal. But you are an idealogue so you didn't take it.

            Have a look at Boeing for a story about a Union that wasn't willing to compromise. Most of the new 787 is being built outside of the U.S. and those jobs aren't ever coming back.

            •  now you are getting ridiculous (0+ / 0-)

              so let me set you straight

              I was a tenured civil servant making 65K when I left to get trained as a teacher, who started at 32K

              While I was teaching still making less than 40K I was offered more than 100K to come and work on converting old Cobol programs for Y2K

              I have turned down the option of taking retirement from my system and working in another jurisdiction as an administrator for more money than I was making as a teacher

              As far as your being almost sure, you are full of crap.  For one thing, this is only my 16th year of teaching.  For another, my school system honored me as its selectee last year for the Agnes Meyer Outstanding Teacher Award from the Washington Post.  For another, they ask me to train other teachers, to mentor other teachers, to serve on panels deciding teacher evaluation policy along with people in the evaluation office, the testing office, several other offices, and the #2 in the school system.

              They know I can retire at any point.  Neither my school nor the school system wants me to retire.

              I suggest before you say again things like you'd bet or you're almost sure you take a deep breath and then decide otherwise.

              Your anti-union bias is palpable.  Perhaps you should go to a place like Red State where that would be appreciated.

              "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

              by teacherken on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 04:44:10 PM PST

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    •  the top in my district (0+ / 0-)

      is 67k.  

      "We as in The United States of America. Sorry if that offends you..." --beelzebud 1/12/11

      by theal8r on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 06:33:44 PM PST

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