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  •  Constitutionality (0+ / 0-)

    None of the publix support or lack of support, nor their lack of understanding actually maters. The bottom line is that in a very short period of time, the funding provision for Obamacare will be presented to the Court for consideration. With a vote of 5-4, the Individual Mandate will be found unconstitutional, and the entire program will collapse under it's own weight

    Paranoia, paranoia, everybody's comin' to get me

    by Fitness Bob on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 02:29:17 PM PST

    •  It isn't likely to get there quite that fast-- (0+ / 0-)

      but yes, it will eventually... and that 5-4 doesn't look good for us....

    •  hahahahaha (3+ / 0-)
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      "Intolerance is something which belongs to the religions we have rejected." - J.J. Rousseau

      by James Allen on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 02:33:41 PM PST

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    •  The Supreme Court would never make that ruling (2+ / 0-)
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      The public, the executive branch and the Congress debated the bill for a year ad ultimately decided to pass it. If the Supreme Court overruled that, it would be probably the most activist decision in history.

      For that same reason, I think Perry v. Schwarznegger is unlikely to result in full legalization of gay marriage, due to a fear of public backlash.

      What matters is not wealth, or status, or power - but how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others. - Pres. Obama

      by Raineee on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 02:36:59 PM PST

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    •  But the VA judge ruled in favor (1+ / 0-)
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      of severability.

      And the mandate doesn't fund the government part of the ACA. That was a 1% tax on higher incomes. The mandate prevents adverse selection, where people choose not to be insured until they know they need insurance (which is contrary to the whole risk-sharing idea of insurance in the first place).

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 02:39:15 PM PST

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    •  Conservatives need the will of people thwarted. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's a decidedly minority agenda, and they know it.  So... good luck with that.

      Nobody ever bombed a pro-life office.

      by Inland on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 03:01:23 PM PST

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    •  Trolling for anything special? (1+ / 0-)
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      Anytime someone says the stupid phrase "Obamacare" I simply think they haven't a clue of what they are saying.

      First off, the idea that any challenge will ever make it to Scalia, Inc. is pretty much a non-starter. It is doubtful that the lower courts would ever let it pass that far. And giving it to the SCOTUS would only have them refuse to review it. On its merits the Interstate Commerce Clause allows Congress to enact just about anything it wants with Healthcare. It's perfectly in the power to manage under that clause.

      Secondly, it's already clear by today's polling that the citizens of this country have been lied to about the problems with the Affordable Healthcare Act. There is no Obamacare Act, nor Boner's Job Killing Healthcare Act.

      "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

      by Wynter on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 03:04:42 PM PST

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