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  •  Optimistic speeches are awesome! (2+ / 0-)
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    Who doesn't love them? Now that that's out of the way, can we please hear what the Obama Administration's plans are to solve this persistently high unemployment? I listened to the speech last night, and I didn't hear it.

    "The pie shall be cut in half and each man shall receive...death. I'll eat the pie." Homer as Solomon

    by Lost Left Coaster on Wed Jan 26, 2011 at 03:50:09 PM PST

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    •  FAIL (9+ / 0-)

      The point of the diary is this:

      Nothing important can be done with the GOP controlled House. NOTHING. It doesn't matter if people will be starving in the streets without action - there won't be any. So this speech was about the 2012 elections.

      My little sister is a 99'er so I feel the pain of the unemployed. But NOTHING can be done to help them because elections matter and heartless bastards control the House.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Wed Jan 26, 2011 at 04:05:51 PM PST

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      •  I'll grant that at this point we need all style (1+ / 0-)
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        and no substance. Apparently. But wouldn't it be nice if the American people had a sense as to how the Obama Administration would address unemployment if they, say, could? I guess I'm just saying that I would have really liked to hear a strong case last night for how and why we should reduce the severe unemployment in this country.

        It feels to me that we're now in a situation where the 99'ers and the older unemployed workers are pretty much going to be screwed, forever. Yes, the Republicans bear a lot of the blame for this. No doubt. But I would love to know what the Obama Administration would do about this. Because I don't think that things are going to get better, economically, anytime soon.

        "The pie shall be cut in half and each man shall receive...death. I'll eat the pie." Homer as Solomon

        by Lost Left Coaster on Wed Jan 26, 2011 at 04:10:24 PM PST

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      •  Yep. And if the President is popular (5+ / 0-)

        it could go a long way to taking the house back. The coattails of that office are mighty long.

        Assuming we want to get any shred of marginally left-of-center legislation passed in our lifetimes, of course.

        It's only water. What could go wrong???

        by MrSandman on Wed Jan 26, 2011 at 04:23:28 PM PST

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      •  It's to the point where I hope you're right (3+ / 0-)
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        that NOTHING can be done.  I fear there will be far too much done in the next two years.  An attack on social security looms as the next SOMETHING likely to be done.

        In any case, I have my doubts that those saying it's all about the election will be true to that viewpoint when the discussion is going a different way.  Are we finally to be relieved of the diaries listing all the things Obama has done, for one obvious example and easy target?

        In any case, it follows from this that the only meaningful discussions to come on dkos the next year and a half will be about electoral politics.  No discussion of policy will have any practical meaning.  To which I say, hogwash.

        Btw, not questioning the premise of the diary, which I think is probably true, but depressing.  I am strongly questioning such bald statements, in all caps, that nothing will be done.

        The truth is Social Security is financially one of the healthiest institutions in American life, and the most essential to our families' economic security.

        by geomoo on Wed Jan 26, 2011 at 04:45:54 PM PST

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      •  NO. He is becoming a leader... (5+ / 0-)

        My disappointment with his policies has been profound.  
        Especially given how weak his leadership was.
        Pre tax-cut negotiations, I was so upset, I was waiting for his "rabbit moment" or his "Barf at the Japanese Prime Minister's Table" moment.  
        Then something else began.  
        Yes.  Terrible policy compromises. But there was strength and leadership.
        I felt the wheels of the train of State unlock, and begin to roll.
        I began to see he was being, all things considered, the right leader at the right time.
        Thisis what we need.  
        And I, for one, no longer hope for pre-eighties progressive policies.  
        The new leader that I see has taught me, as leaders do, something transcendent.
        The new leader gave the Gabby speech.  It transcended.
        The SOTU transcended.  The ensconced, and retro-idealistic will never get it.
        I heard many policy proposals.  Not the time-worn, pre global economy, interest-group whining so many of us used to propagate.
        I said to myself, watching the speech:
        "Yes! He's gonna be the best president, in the toughest times, since FDR.
        I never post.  
        I guess I must mean it.

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