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  •  It's been said that the Spanish and English were (6+ / 0-)

    brutal colonizers because each had embarked on a program of exploration after a period of civil war in their own homeland. In each case, there were plenty of ex-soldiers knocking around with experience at carving up Muslims, Catholics, Protestants, Irishmen and Basques.

    Both kingdoms had acquired experience with the process of ethnic cleansing and re-settling depopulated territory with plantations of loyal citizens.

    The French also experienced civil war during the Reformation, but it consisted mainly of feudal conflicts among the French nobility and massacres of Huguenots conducted by urban mobs. So the French adventurers who journeyed to North America for gold and glory weren't as ruthless as their Spanish and English counterparts.

    Have you noticed?
    Politicians who promise LESS government
    only deliver BAD government.

    by jjohnjj on Sun Jan 30, 2011 at 08:25:07 AM PST

    •  Interesting note: (5+ / 0-)
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      In 1562 French naval officer Jean Ribault led an expedition to the New World that founded Fort Caroline as a haven for Huguenots in what is now Jacksonville, Florida. Trying to keep control of La Florida, Spanish soldiers killed Ribault and many of his followers near St. Augustine in 1565.

      Have you noticed?
      Politicians who promise LESS government
      only deliver BAD government.

      by jjohnjj on Sun Jan 30, 2011 at 08:25:41 AM PST

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    •  Many of the French came to North (5+ / 0-)
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      America (particularly Canada) to trade more than settle -- they traveled widely and married into local tribes to secure trading rights.

      I think these traders saw no need to destroy the Native American population because they helped them get the furs they wanted.

      In Canada, there is a whole race called 'Metis' who are descendents of French traders and Native American women.

      After the traders, French settlers(many of them Hugenots)came and settled what is now Quebec.

      The French seemed to be more accepting of Native Americans than the English, but the Catholic priests came with the French, and that of course changed the Native American culture.

      HylasBrook @62 - fiesty, fiery, and fierce

      by HylasBrook on Sun Jan 30, 2011 at 08:34:43 AM PST

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    •  yes, but in the south west, in NM (2+ / 0-)
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      at Acoma and Taos pueblo they still live in their original pueblos because the Spanish did not kill all.

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