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  •  The really tricky, important thing is to explain (0+ / 0-)

    (or even to thoroughly understand) both the differences between the organizational mouthpieces of the Israel lobby (AIPAC, CPMAJO, the ADL) and the larger Jewish-American community, and their connections to each other. There are some very big differences between these two, for example in support for the invasion of Iraq. On the other hand, CPMAJO, whose leaders at the time editorialized for the Iraq invasion, and which now seems to be mainly devoted to neocon foreign policy such as fearmongering about Iran (most of their press releases in 2009 were about Iran's nuclear program), still claims the membership of what looks like a very comprehensive list of American Jewish community/cultural organizations. (Why haven't more of them withdrawn their support of CPMAJO?) So it seems to me it would be wrong to claim a complete division between Israel lobby and American Jewish opinion on foreign policy issues, just as it would be wrong to call them identical. A more precise and succinct formulation of the connection between these things would go a long way towards taking the heat and confusion out of these discussions.

    A lot of what I hear about the state of discussion in Europe is upsetting though, I'm sadly not all that surprised to hear that a European actually believes that Jews control much of the US gov't.

    proud to be a pro-democracy kossack

    by bicycle Hussein paladin on Mon Jan 31, 2011 at 05:21:53 PM PST

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    •  no...that's true...they're certainly not (1+ / 0-)
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      fully dissociated.

      For example, there are a lot of conservative (even reform) Jews who tend to vote democratic but retain a lot of the anti-Muslim sentiment typically characteristic of the American Right (or Likud, for that matter).  I know several.

      Ultimately, most people don't understand the inherent complexities of other ethnic groups (or even their own, for that matter) you have these monolithic groupings that mask really important distinctions...

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