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  •  It's actually not a long way (1+ / 0-)
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    If you claim a bill is actually violent, you're not that far from suggesting that women can act in self-defense against those committing this violent act against them. It isn't that big a step.

    VIolence against women is pretty serious. This bill just relates to funding of a medical procedure. It might be shocking to our conscience, and might really affect a lot of women, but it is not violence. It should not be confused with real violence, because the comparison can only serve to minimize actual violence.

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    by FischFry on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 02:33:00 PM PST

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    •  Your definition then means violence (0+ / 0-)

      is simply physical contact and nothing else.

      From personal experience I can assure you that the expectation of physical violence from an assailant is violence.

      I think it's more useful to think about what this bill means instead of parsing what does or does not constitute violence or talking about violence.

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      by HylasBrook on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 04:58:40 PM PST

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      •  I'll agree (0+ / 0-)

        Violence is more than contact -- it includes physical intimidation and threat. I still don't see how legislation about funding abortions meets anyone's definition of violence. That's just overblown rhetoric. I don't find it parsing, when we're complaining about rhetorical excess from the other side.

        I would much rather we focus on this  bill is indefensible as a matter of policy.

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        by FischFry on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 06:07:40 PM PST

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