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  •  Look ... (none)

    I've personally asked a lot of people with true expertise in this, and the Iranians are pursuing a weapon.  They're disguising it with talk about creating nuclear energy (so said the ambassador on Charlie Rose).

    Let's not be naive.  The Iranians aren't.  They see that Israel has nuclear weapons, and want to balance out the power and weaponry.  

    The Europeans have the right take on this -- diplomacy.  So does the IAEA.  

    Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

    by SusanHu on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 10:02:59 PM PST

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    •  i tend to believe iran is going nuclear. (none)
      the factor that makes me hesitate is israel. didn't israel take out an iranian nuclear facility years ago in the belief that it represented a threat to israel's existence? i'd be curious as to israel's stance on all of this at this time.

      We get a lot of advice. We tend to listen when somebody's won something. - Joe Lockhart

      by yankeedoodler on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 12:28:32 AM PST

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      •  NO. It was an Iraqi nuclear reactor (none)
        that Israel destroyed from the air in 1981--the Osirak reactor aka the Tammuz reactor.

        Incidentally, "Osirak" is a blend of two words: "Osiris"--the Egyptian god of the dead--and "Iraq"

        Echos of J. Robert Oppenheimer "I am become death, shatterer of worlds"

        The whole human nuclear adventure is fraught with irony.

        •  thanks. you're right, i did get it (none)
          mixed up. any thoughts on israel's stance vis-a-vis the iran
          nuclear weapons issue?

          We get a lot of advice. We tend to listen when somebody's won something. - Joe Lockhart

          by yankeedoodler on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 09:09:10 AM PST

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          •  it boggles the mind! (none)
            I have no particular insight, but here's a really good summary of what faces US/Israel re Iran

            http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm

            CNS is the Center for Non-proliferation Studies

            the analysis was done in 2004--not all that long ago.

            I will say that only a week or so ago the NYT carried an article about changes in our own nuclear weapons program with the goal to getting more accurate weapons. We averted a hot war while sitting on a lot of "duds" during the cold war  under MAD [mutually assured destruction. If  what we're after now is increased accuracy--I'm scared.

    •  Did those experts happen to believe in (none)
      WMD too?  

      Stop the war! Draft Bush voters!

      by NoAlternative on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 12:51:09 AM PST

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    •  Of course... (4.00)
      ...Iran is seeking nuclear weapons. They'd be stupid not to be. The US has made it perfectly clear that having nukes means we leave you alone (North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, China).

      What ElBaradei has said is that there is no evidence of a weapons program. The Iranians are being very clever and are playing the same game as Israel when it comes to denying what everyone "knows."

      But your insinuation that somehow your "people with true expertise" are more in the know than ElBaradei and the IAEA doesn't really add much. Far too much of the info seems to be coming from Iranian exiles (think Chalabi and Iraq) and is automatically suspect in my mind. At least ElBaradei's people have actually been in Iran and inspected facilities.

      "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell

      by Mad Dog Rackham on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 09:45:30 AM PST

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    •  I think Baradei (none)
      was merely commenting that their nuclear program was suited to civilian and not miliatry uses.

      Nobody contests the presence of a program, just its purposes.

      Of course, a country sitting on oil really doesn't need nuclear power for civilian purposes, but this their way of getting started to military programs.

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