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  •  I find it kind of enlightening... (24+ / 0-)

    having read the FP pieces on WEBB and now this one...  

    Progressives worked HARD, mostly without question, to put Webb into his senate seat and once there, imho, he was a disappointment concerning progressive causes...

    on the other hand there was real disagreement about supporting Kristin Gillibrand and she was questioned hard about her stances and her plans, once in office but when she got to DC she became a fearless and outspoken progressive supporter of some of the most 'HOT BUTTON' issues we face.

    I was not to keen on Kristin, in the beginning, but I am so pleased she is my Senator now.  If progressive issues are going to go down in flames I want them to go down with a FIGHT and Kristin seems ready to lead the charge!!

    ...and I am pretty sure she isn't a witch (wink)

    "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin

    by KnotIookin on Wed Feb 09, 2011 at 09:21:01 AM PST

    •  What a great comment (13+ / 0-)

      with some real perspective. Think Jon Tester too, who couldn't even vote for the perfectly reasonable Dream Act.

      There aren't "two sides" to the issue of LGBT equality.

      by Scott Wooledge on Wed Feb 09, 2011 at 09:27:44 AM PST

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    •  I will say this (9+ / 0-)

      That the prospects in 2006 for unseating George Allen seemed quixotic at best initially.

      It was only through the readiness to take advantage of Allen's outrageous and overt racism that the Webb campaign came out on top.

      So, there is NOTHING to apologize for in that.  Webb, disappointing as he was in some respects, was not only a vast improvement policy wise for progressives, but also managed to derail what was largely thought to be an juggernaut to bring George Allen into the Republican Presidential nomination, and the White House.

      Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

      by boadicea on Wed Feb 09, 2011 at 10:44:36 AM PST

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    •  I must admit (1+ / 0-)
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      that I'm still a doubter about my junior Senator, although I'm pleased so far.  What leaves me unconvinced is not so much her, but the corrupt environment in which she has to function.  I'm not convinced that any Senator with so little seniority can actually exercise any independence from the body — I noticed, for example, that she was very vocal in her opposition to the "tax deal" last December.  I also noticed that it mattered not a damn bit;  even Schumer voted for that piece of trash.  So I can't view her performance yet as anything other than theater.  Not yet, at least.

      But I agree with you that so far we've done much better with her than with either of the other two Senators you mentioned.  I donated to Tester in 2008 and have come to feel it was a huge mistake.  

    •  Webb a disappointment but... (8+ / 0-)

      I worked hard to get Jim Webb elected in 2006 and I have to acknowledge that some of his votes and positions have disappointed me.  However, he's been much better than George Allen would have been if re-elected.

      As far as I am concerned, Webb pulled off a two-fer--he was the margin of victory for the Dems to take over the Senate in 2006, and he knocked George Allen out of the position of being a leading contender for the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination.

      I'm not surprised that he's not running for re-election--Webb never seemed comfortable as a U.S. Senator, especially the glad-handing and fundraising part of the job.  So, I wish him well in private life in 2013, and in the meantime, will fight to get a solid Democrat into his seat in 2012.

    •  If it pleases you that she's your Senator.,. (3+ / 0-)
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      you might want to get her name right.

      Kirsten

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