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  •  Ah, the GOP's repressed homo-eroticism ! (4.00)

    We are discreet sheep; we wait to see how the drove is going, and then go with the drove. -Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910)

    by Troutfishing on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 02:21:25 PM PST

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    •  Eh heh. Eh hehe. (none)
      Nice. That goes so many places, most of which are so very wrong.

      There is a heaven, but ill never get there... i keep respawning...

      by Sandals on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 02:28:57 PM PST

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      •  God... (none)
        They really have a low opinion of Americans, don't they?  It's like they think we're all Homer Simpson.
        •  Help the seniors...visit their message boards (4.00)
          I have just come from the AARP message boards, where there are a couple of threads regarding this outrage.

          I suggest that some of us Kossacks visit those boards (at least the "Legislation & Elections" one), and share our knowledge with the seniors.

          Here's a link to those boards:  AARP boards .

          What have you done today to take Bush and the Bushies down?

          by JTML on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 03:42:53 PM PST

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          •  Hee! I just went there. (4.00)
            It doesn't sound like they need a whole lot of help figuring this one out. Here's a typical comment.
            These people are shameless.  There is no moral stand for such blatant attacks.

            They are not even pretending to be nice guys, anymore.

            They announced it publicly, the gall of the dishonest knows no bounds. They must think we are very dumb, they are counting on it. The evangelicals have given the administration a false sense of security, and exagerated self importance.

            Nobody had a single good word for Bush over there, in any of the threads I visited.

            Massacre is not a family value.

            by Canadian Reader on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 04:51:59 PM PST

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            •  Woo Hooo!!! (none)
              Went over there and the place is lit up! An enterprising entrepreneur could make a fortune on torches and pitchforks. The first ten topics on their message boards are:

              AARP - Bush STABBED You in the Back
              Is social security really broken?
              Social Security Reform
              AARP be honest
              AARP smear campaign
              Swift boat to attack AARP and SS
              DO NOT TRUST BUSH OR REPUBLICANS PERIOD!
              Social Security Bankrupt 2052
              BUSHBASHER SUPPORTS OWNERSHIP SOCIETY
              Good article in today's WSJ

              He really is a uniter not a divider!

              http://community.aarp.org/rp-legislative/start

              The present administration is rolling back the Great Society, the New Deal, the Enlightenment, and the Renaissance.

              by JohnInWestland on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 07:08:00 PM PST

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              •  KEEP BACKSTABBING YOUR BASE! (none)
                i think this is a good thing....the ridiculousness of these ads is amazing!

                the more they attack their base, the worse his ratings & the better 2006 will look for us.

                this is a good thing....keep encouranging them to shoot themselves in the foot....

                the more they unfairly attack their base, the more that base will realize how unfair the attacks on kerry were.....

            •  No way they roll out this message to the masses... (4.00)
              ...via TV, radio, or print.

              First, let's remember...THIS GROUP IS THE "GREATEST GENERATION" (apologies to Brokaw).  Call them anti-troops?  Uh uh.  Not me, and not anyone with a shred of common sense...not to mention respect or diginity.  (Not that any semblance of the latter two are even remotely on the table here, granted).

              Online, they can get away with it...lower composition of those 55 or above, most will never see the image posted.  Not so in the other channels.

              Overreaching is the new meme.  I'm split on whether we hammer it and get some victories under our collective belts, or simply give them more rope.  

              It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. - Robert F. Kennedy

              by rygriffin333 on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 07:15:59 PM PST

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              •  Amen, that's your frame! (3.66)
                The GOP calling the "greatest generation" a bunch of America-hating, troop-hating, queers?

                Not that there's anything wrong with that last one. There're plenty of GLBT people who are elderly--simple fact of life. But libel is as libel does.

                That's definitely the frame though: "GOP attacks 'greatest generation', impugnes their honor, and calls them un-American". I know we in the USA tend not to have a whole lot of respect for our elders--but wow.

                Strike back! Don't let the GOP's cold, cruel claw steal the honor of our grandparents!

                The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

                by Shapeshifter on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 07:41:02 PM PST

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              •  The anti-AARP message (none)
                will be dealt with in the next AARP newsletter. I'll bet. I don't know how many people currently belong to AARP but it is a multitude. First Social Security and now this. The retirees of this nation are going to be pissed if not already so. Just because people have gotten older doesn't mean they are anywhere near being stupid. In fact, they are probably smarter than average. How do you think people live to be retirees? It takes brains and good common sense. Most of the stupid people don't live long enough to reach retirement.

                I'm not sure but I believe that the eligibility age to join AARP is only 55. If so, that makes a large percentage of the "Boomers" eligible. The neo-con Republicans have bitten off more than they can chew by doing this. The most patriotic, dedicated and true citizens are retirees and members of AARP. They can get very active when the government is working against them. I mean, we are talking about the parents of congressmen, senators and the Resident.

                BTW, has anyone noticed how chummy daddy Bush and Bill Clinton have gotten recently? I think they are working on a way to get W. away from the WH.
                GHWB's kid Dubya has been trouble for his dad all his life and Dubya ain't slowing down.
                Maybe daddy has decided to adopt Bill Clinton? How can it hurt GHWB beyond what Dubya is doing for the family name?
                 

                Who's responsible for this mess?

                by Skylor on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 10:18:24 PM PST

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              •  It's not a choice (none)
                >>>Overreaching is the new meme.  I'm split on whether we hammer it and get some victories under our collective belts, or simply give them more rope.<<<

                We've given them enough rope over the past umpty years to hang the entire GOP leadership, and it doesn't work.  The vast majority of Americans get their news strictly from the mainstream media -- and of that, mostly TV news or from secondhand conversations with someone else who watched the news the night before -- and the MSM consistently refuses to cover the GOP's own malfeasances.  The only thing the MSM is interested is scandal.  WE are the ones who have to make their crimes and misdemeanors into media scandals.  It worked to an extent with SpankBoy Gannon; that little peccadillo prepared the ground, so to speak.  (It's flaming out partially because there's no one in the White House to connect GG to; how far would the Lewinsky scandal have gotten if the news was, "Monica's having sex with someone in the WH?"  If we want to make GG front-oage headlines, we need to find out who he's topping and spread that name all over the news.)

                You don't win a fight if you're fighting by Marquis of Queensbury rules and your opponent is doping your drinks, paying off your manager, and hammering you with a billyclub.  It's time to even the playing field, and if that means bringing our own clubs to the fight, so be it.

                To extend the sports metaphor (as annoying and inaccurate as such metaphors can be), we've been playing as if we expect the referees -- in this case the mainstream media -- to blow the whistle on the Republicans and make them play by the rules.  It isn't happening.  We need to stop thinking of this in terms of tiddlywinks and start thinking "Rollerball."

                Hunter was right, politics is a blood sport.  Let's start drawing some of theirs for a change.

            •  They need to look in the mirror... (none)
              because as a cross section of the public, you can bet your boots that they voted in the majority for BUSH.

              And they were allll gung ho for the war, they're all part of the WWII and Viet Nam war generation.

              Rubbing their nose in it now makes no sense, but again...they should all take a long hard look in the mirror.

              They are just as responsible for the coming SS debacle (meaning that it WILL be changed in some manner now) as any of us.

              •  actually (none)
                I think they were pretty much AGAINST the war, if not real vocal about it. Most of the retirees I know (both military and regular) saw no reason for this Iraq debacle, immediately compared it to Vietnam, and while they support the TROOPS, they don't necessarily agree with Bush.

                And I can't think of any Vietnam vet that I know of that supported it. My friend worked at a vet center, she didn't know any either.

                Nor did my husband, most of his friends (and they're pretty conservative people), my son (navy vet), or most of my coworkers.

                I think all the polls are crap, but that's beside the point.

          •  Yesterday (none)
            I saw this latest outrage in the NYTimes and I immediately went to my computer and joined AARP.

            NOT cause I am a huge AARP fan but to stick my tongue out at the stupid Swift Boat Liars PR people.

            THEy want to "peel off" a million AARP supporters. Therefore I joined AARP. Pretty simple.

            But naturally when I posted that HERE, I got a few pissy replies about how AARP is bad. Fuck that! I didn't join cause I'm in love with AARP, I joined in reaction to the Repug smear.

            Maybe now that the great and wonderful Kos has spoken you guys will be able to see the point.

        •  I would like to state (none)
          That your statement does not give credit to Homer Simpson. They have nothing on there about doughnuts, so nothing should concern the fine American.

          Some men see things as they are and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask, Why Not? ~Robert F. Kennedy

          by Southern Liberal on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 07:49:28 PM PST

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        •  funny, cause my first thought was... (none)
          of that simpsons episode where smithers says to burns, 'i hope you're happy, you've vanquished all your enemies, the elementary school, the local tavern, the old folks' home.'  sad thing is i wouldn't be ALL THAT shocked if Bush unveiled a giant apparatus to block out the sun.

          this [expletive deleted] is exhausting...too exhausting to even curse at it...

      •  The question is... (none)
        Did the guys meet on one of Gannon's sites?

        What have you done today to take Bush and the Bushies down?

        by JTML on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 03:45:34 PM PST

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      •  Image manipulation (none)
        You have to be very careful what you put out there. It can come back to haunt you. That's a nice manipulation of the original image.
    •  GOP's gay obsession (4.00)
      Lately I can't look at a GOP website or ad campaign without seeing some kind of gay sex.
    •  asdf (none)
      Dubya and his codpiece on the aircraft carrier
    •  Sorry...I just couldn't resist (4.00)
    •  Think he's hawt? (none)
      Then I have some websites for you....

      Hotmilitarystud.com
      militaryescorts.com
      militaryescortsM4M.com

      And I heard from this guy at the White House that he was only $1200 for a weekend....

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