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  •  Disagree. This is a compromise. (5+ / 0-)

    Coup refers to violent overthrow by the military.  Would reflect something different, diplomatically.

    This is about Mubarak willingly laying down his mantle as Pharoah (or whatever he sees himself as being), keeping some shred of dignity, and leaving open options for his return.

    I think that's very, very important.  It means that Mubarak is still a player in this "orderly transition".

    Suleiman becomes a more and more troubling figure in light of that fact, and his history.  It's almost as if Mubarak is the first Domino to fall and then the military/people/world will have to exert additional pressure in order to topple the brutal police state of Suleiman and the power brokers at the top of the Egyptian economic food chain.

    There is very much a sense in which the Egyptian political ethos reflects a caliphate or tribal/feudal system.  I don't know what to make of that, but there is clearly a need for something more to happen if we're hoping for a pluralistic, secular democratic Egypt.

    Stop clapping. Stop screaming. Open your mind. Listen.

    by Benintn on Thu Feb 10, 2011 at 09:37:02 AM PST

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    •  No. Coups do not need to be violent (1+ / 0-)
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      to be coups.

      That's not the meaning of the word.

      We need to find the middle ground between Heliocentric and Geocentric extremists.

      by JesseCW on Thu Feb 10, 2011 at 10:10:41 AM PST

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