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  •  you would be wrong. you have the rest of the days (0+ / 0-)

    to give obama credit for egypt's victory. not today.

    •  I wasn't giving him credit per se, but there's (2+ / 0-)

      a lot of discussion about that speech.  That's the only reason I linked to it.  I quoted the part on democracy as a reference.  

      This day is a great day for Egyptians.  I am just glad we have a president that didn't take the side of the dictator, after 30 years of former presidents doing so.

      •  Actions matter way way more than words... (1+ / 0-)
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        what may be to Obama's credit (I don't think we can really even know at this point) is if he didn't try to support Mubarak or the regime (Suleiman, &c.) behind the scenes. His words on the revolution (belated though they were), especially his second speech where he said that the needed changes hadn't happened yet, were a lot more important than the Cairo speech. If Egyptians hadn't revolted, the Cairo speech would have gone down in history asan embarrassment to America and Obama both.

        I honestly don't think the speech was important at all. It stopped mattering when months went by and there was no sign that US policy was actually changing even a little bit.

        proud to be a pro-democracy kossack

        by bicycle Hussein paladin on Fri Feb 11, 2011 at 09:09:24 AM PST

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    •  We have no idea (2+ / 0-)
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      what went on behind closed doors, closed phone lines.

      History will tell us how much Obama did or didn't do to help this along.  We won't know for some time.

      Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth - Abraham Lincoln

      by Gustogirl on Fri Feb 11, 2011 at 09:14:40 AM PST

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