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  •  This is a wonderful idea. (3+ / 0-)
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         The "Daily Kos Collection" of political people and places and events.

          I am not a photographer, However I would be willing to help out wherever needed.

    If Glenn Beck is so smart, why do they call him Glenn Beck?

    by Caddis Fly on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 02:23:47 PM PST

    •  File management (6+ / 0-)

      Just my own pictures that I take require a lot of work to organize them such that I can find them again.  With dozens, even hundreds, of people posting pictures, it could get wildly daunting in a hurry.

      Some picture librarians might be in a great help.

      Will there be a tag system for searching the photos, or has it be thought through to that extent?

      exmearden: Grab every minute of joy you can. 8/30/09

      by Land of Enchantment on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 02:51:49 PM PST

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      •  Yes, definitely (5+ / 0-)

        there'll be galleries, sub-galleries, and tags. We haven't thought through exactly what they're all going to be, but I think it's something I'll put out there in one of the next diaries about this project, and we can brainstorm together. As far as file management, yes, that's going to be a big issue and I'm currently looking for a couple more co-editors. One option could be a monthly limit, that way we can avoid having folks upload 100s upon 100s of photos and us having to sift through all of them. Obviously, it's most preferable when people can self-edit but everyone has different ways of looking at their photos, so some maximum limit may be a good idea. Maybe there could be an exception if someone has already downloaded their max for the month and they just took the hottest shot ever that just can't wait, just drop the administrators a line.

        •  The hallmark of a good photographer (7+ / 0-)

          ... is that they don't show but a few of their to the world at large.  Harsh editing is in order.  Not-so-good photographers are more inclined to ask you to look at 200 pictures of their vacation, rather than just 20.

          This is a non-trivial problem.

          As to having a limit?  It would depend on the photographer.  I've got many many (as in thousands) of pictures of New Deal projects from around the country photographed over the last several years.  While I wouldn't be posting anything like all of those thousands, there's a lot of things that other users might feel inclined to make use of.  It would be too bad if they couldn't be available because of a limit.

          That said:  Helping out as an editor might be a useful role for me.

          exmearden: Grab every minute of joy you can. 8/30/09

          by Land of Enchantment on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 03:15:11 PM PST

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          •  That'll be the key to figure out (3+ / 0-)
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            the right balance between community moderation and actual editing. Obviously this shouldn't become a place where everyone just throws anything up there, otherwise it'll quickly degenerate into an unmanageable and unwatchable mess. Personally, I'd rather have less photos of higher quality, but then again, "high quality" can be in the eye of the beholder. So I think having several editors will be key, I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5 who will have full editing privileges and that could be sort of a committee of whether to keep or toss borderline pics, or at least when the removal of a photo encounters protest.

            Let me know if you're serious about helping out, I think we can put together a great team of editors.

        •  Please let us know... (1+ / 0-)
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          citisven

          ...when you you get things settled a bit. I am simi-retired from a life of printing presses, layout, colors, and graphics.

          I'll help where I can.

        •  Some advice (2+ / 0-)
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          to help get people to edit their work, don't make it too easy to upload. Do not create a mass-upload tool like flickr. Instead, have an upload form that will require the uploader to fill out several dialogues (photo location, tags, etc.).

          Also, institute a daily limit. Make sure this limit is consistent with what you and your editors can keep up with. Do not make the mistake of certain online stock photo agencies who take days, weeks, or even months to approve a submission.

          For an example of popular photo site on a specialized topic that heavily edits their submissions check this out http://www.railpictures.net/

          Make an account and take a look at the upload menu for an example of the kind of  dialogue-heavy uploading tool I'm talking about. The site has a fairly small staff of editors (I think six) all but one or two are part time (and the full time staff are the site's owner), and limits uploads to a max of 10 a day for most members.

          I would advise against adopting the editorial practices of the railpictures.net staff, but in terms of pure functionality they've got a pretty good handle on how to deal with a lot of uploads on a specialized topic.

          The Angries are back

          by Goldfish on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:09:26 PM PST

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        •  I could provide a categorization (3+ / 0-)
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          tree that was developed for a news agency to archive their video material. May be a starting point to brainstorm a tag and folder/category/subfolder/subcategory tree.

      •  There needs to be a tag system (2+ / 0-)
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        That is the only way this will work.

        The Angries are back

        by Goldfish on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 07:58:32 PM PST

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