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    Here's one:

    Rendition Case Takes a New Twist - is that the one you meant?

    I also sent you this one from the WaPost.

    I'm a little tired right now, so I hope this comment makes sense, heh.

    Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell

    by Page van der Linden on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 11:38:57 AM PST

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    •  Great work... (none)
      as always, Susan.  

      I think this diary could benefit from a chronological structure or timeline as well.  The reason I raise this is that this WaPo editorial appeared yesterday, and then, "Voila!" today Ali suddenly appears in D.C. District Court.

      The WaPo editorial was extremely troubling in that it identified the outrageous extralegal procedures the Justice Dept. was insisting, i.e. secret evidence and most disturbing, SECRET ARGUMENTS!!  The latter is truly unbelievable.  The arrival of the defendant now raises BIG legal questions, many of which you have identified.  This is a fascinating development to this case.  Please keep us updated!

      •  Max (none)
        I did find this article from CNN International :
        Saudi Arabia handing over U.S. citizen

        Man held for 20 months expected to face charges

        Tuesday, February 22, 2005 Posted: 0148 GMT (0948 HKT)

        WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An American detained in Saudi Arabia for 20 months without being charged is being sent back to the United States where he is expected to be charged Tuesday, his father and a family friend told CNN.

        Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

        by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 04:12:29 PM PST

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        •  Imagine his family's shock ... (none)
          no wonder the NYTimes reports they laughed when the charges were read in court today (linked in the diary):

          Abu Ali's family said it has been told he will face unspecified charges in federal court. He is expected to make an appearance in U.S. District Court sometime Tuesday.

          His father Omar Abu Ali, said he got a call from the FBI telling him his son was coming back from Saudi Arabia Monday night.

          "I feel that the truth will come soon," he told CNN. "He will be a free man soon."

          He said his son's return to the United States shows this was never a Saudi case....

          They laughed.  But as the charges sink in, his family and supporters are going to be in an utter state of panic.  Especially with Abu Gonzales in charge of their son's indictment.  

          He may be lucky if he ends up with 20 years like Lindh.

          Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

          by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 04:16:34 PM PST

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        •  A little clearer to me now... (4.00)
          Tell me if I have it right: Ali's family filed a habeas lawsuit before Judge Bates in D.C. District Court.  Last December, Bates refused to dismiss the lawsuit over the strenuous objection of the DOJ.  Then, the DOJ advanced these ex parte "secret evidence/secret arguments" theories, which Bates seems to (fortunately) hold a dim view of.  So, it seems DOJ would have been forced to produce Ali or respond to some questions about his whereabouts, wellbeing, the procedures under which he was detained, etc... in the near future.

          Then, today, Ali shows up in the Eastern District of Virginia.  This is in the 4th Circuit, which is where the Rumsfeld/DOJ transferred Jose Padilla after Judge Mukasey ruled he was entitled to a lawyer (among other protections.)  The Supreme Court blessed the Padilla forum shopping transfer without ruling on the constitutionality of his detention.  As you probably know, the 4th Circuit is regarded as one of the most conservative in the nation.  

          Very interesting civil liberties case.  One that we all should be watching.  Where's the ACLU on this one?

          •  Thanks, Max! (none)
            Great summary.  It'd be great if you could diary the legal aspects as they develop -- you have the expertise.

            I searched the ACLU site and could find nothing.  But several attorneys have been on this, and so have human rights groups -- I have a quote above that refers to "Human Rights USA, a group assisting Abu Ali's family with its petition."  You know, the other day -- for a different diary -- I tried to find a link to this group but couldn't.  Might you know?

            Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

            by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 06:15:26 PM PST

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          •  Max, here's more (none)
            "The following is a sequence of events in the ground-breaking lawsuit filed by the World Organization for Human Rights USA and the family of Ahmed Abu Ali in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia challenging the US government's detention of a US citizen in Saudi Arabia. ..."

            ... from Human Rights USA  And I finally found the Web site for this group.  

            Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

            by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 07:32:41 PM PST

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            •  Wow..great stuff, Susan! (none)
              Website gives a wonderful summary of the disposition of the case.  

              Interesting footnote...Judge Bates was appointed by none other than.....

              ....G.W. Bush.

              I think the intersection of the law, the war, the media and the exigencies of Administration propaganda in this case is fascinating.  I will work on some legal analysis and consult with some friends about predictions for likely resolution.  

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