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  •  this could be huge if it's a precedent-setting (none)
    case. Just imagine...a judge throws out the charges because the evidence was obtained under torture. It would give new legal hope to god knows how many "prisoners."
    •  Torture victims and Bush (none)
      Jane Mayer's excellent New Yorker article, which I believe is linked as well as quoted above, makes the point that in the beginning, the "extraordinary rendition" program was a last resort for persons who were convicted in court in absentia by us or another country, and who were living abroad.  After 9/11, as Susan explains, it became the modus operandi for the Bush Admin, who wanted results but hadn't the wit or the patience to find out how to get them.  As a result, there are people who can't be tried because it would expose what was done to them even if in fact they are guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place or knowing the wrong people, as well as people who may be guilty of something but also can't be tried.  What are we going to do with them?  Start dropping them from planes over the South Pacific like the Chileans and Argentines?

      Andrew Sullivan made a really good point on Chris Matthews Sunday.  It completely undercuts and belies Bush's "democracy" initiative in the Middle East when we send people to places like Egypt and Saudi to be tortured.  It was funny to see his fellow panelists and Tweety look dumb at that thought.

      If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

      by Mimikatz on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 03:02:51 PM PST

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