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  •  More than 53 years ago, (10+ / 0-)

    read the diary:

    Then, when the Shah fell, we doubled our Embassy staff in 1979 and tried to establish as many connections as possible with the new moderate Bazargan-led government. In the 80s we supported Saddam's invasion with weapons and satellite photos of Iranian troop positions. More recently, Bush brazenly and publicly advertised $400 Million in expenditure for "Regime Change" in Iran. That money was spent somewhere--most likely it found it's way to MEK lunatics and Jundallah--the Baluch separatist group that has successfully terror bombed inside Iran on numerous occasions in the last few years.

    US Support for any movement inside Iran is counter productive. Silence by a US government is not consent--nor does it mean that it won't be reported.

    When a regime is not a US client, like Egypt, US pronouncements have little real effect, and instead give the current Iranian regime cover for the lie that the US is actually behind the protests.

    You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

    by FrankCornish on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 08:33:47 AM PST

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    •  Cover for the lie? (0+ / 0-)

      Are you serious? They shoot their own people without compunction and flip the bird at international diplomacy and world opinion in general. You seriously believe that the Iranian regime require "cover" for their actions?

      •  Yes, because of the diverse population (0+ / 0-)

        Iran has many different strains.  Some are pro-regime, many are anti-regime, but there are also a lot of people ON THE FENCE.  This middle ground thinks the regime is too harsh but also fears America and becoming like Iraq.  The '09 elections in Iran were genuinely close, whatever the true results were.  We need to let the Greens convert the people in the middle to their cause instead of giving the regime some kind of evidence they can use to scare them.  Does any of this sound familiar to you?

        •  Anti-Corruption and (0+ / 0-)

          Anti Colonialism  are the big drivers in moving the electorate .   Religious freedom is probably a close third.  

          Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

          by Eiron on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 01:33:10 PM PST

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        •  That process is presumably ongoing (0+ / 0-)

          and if it is so weak as to not withstand comments from a hated opponent of the regime, then those efforts require revising. I have a really hard time believing that Hillary's comments about peaceful protestors is getting a lot of wide distribution throughout the Iranian populace.

          Why do I get the feeling that US State in general, and Hillary in particular, would be criticized here for not having said anything? Holding Hillary accountable for somehow slowing the democracy process is just bullshit, she has nothing to do with it, and no one here has even attempted to put forward evidence that her statement has ever caused a rubber bullet to be fired, or a single person to be jailed who wouldn't have been rounded up anyway.

      •  How may people has Iran killed in the (0+ / 0-)

        last 10 years?  How many people has the US killed in the last 10 years (don't forget those 1,000,000 Iraqis . . . .)?

        "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex" Dwight D. Eisenhower

        by bobdevo on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 01:27:13 PM PST

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