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  •  According to Rep. King (13+ / 0-)

    they are a "clear and present danger to the United States" and their acts are "worse than a military attack"  I have to think if they have King this worked up they must be doing something right ;)

    ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

    by Kristina40 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 08:25:17 AM PST

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    •  Makes me wonder what he has on (6+ / 0-)

      his home computer.

    •  There is a problem with our leaders here (7+ / 0-)

      Not a damn one of them knows anything about IT or how any of this works.  Most of them only know what they see on the movies, where you can download all the governments files onto a laptop and hack an alien mothership with a macbook.

      It's no wonder the freak the hell out.

      •  well, the "deciders" of this nation... (6+ / 0-)

        ...are in the older generation who are not literate about computers and networks nor ever wish to be.  These country club types buy what they need.  They're not in any position to understand, much less evaluate, the quality of services being rendered by their in-house security teams -- some grossly undermanned and too busy to track emerging threats.

        Put bank execs in that category.  

        We needed president-elect Al Gore in the White House at the beginning of the 21st Century, not a complete dipshit know-nothing stuck in the 17th C.

      •  Remember John Wheeler's murder last month? (1+ / 0-)
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        I recall a blurb somewhere back then that Wheeler was deeply involved in cyber security and the lack thereof for the Pentagon (?).

        Anyway because his name came up again today in the news here:

        Crime scene investigators enter John Wheeler's home

        February 16, 2011
        By Shirley Min

        Investigators entered John Wheeler III’s New Castle home yesterday.

        According to The News Journal, crime scene investigators were there for three hours and left with a large paper bag and several manila envelopes.

        The Newark Police Department’s spokesman Lt. Mark Farrall had this to say when asked what exactly was collected.

        “I can confirm investigators were at the home of Mr. Wheeler yesterday. I cannot provide specifics as to what their activities were at this time.”

        The Washington insider’s body was found inside a dumpster at the Cherry Island landfill in Wilmington New Year’s Eve.

        Remember this image of the man obviously disoriented?:

        I found this on DU and thought I'd pass it along:

        Jan 13: "Senators say military cyber ops not disclosed."

        Cyber ops were precisely what John Wheeler was said to be working on at MITRE Corporation, for the Defense Department. The article reports on the dissembling before a closed Senate hearing, by a nominee for undersecretary of defense for intelligence, Michael Vickers, who tells a senator that the reason for the Defense Dept not disclosing cyberwar ops to the Senate is that such "emerging high tech operations are not specifically mentioned in the law" requiring disclosure. He said he would, of course, "if confirmed," review the law to suggest updates. (I'm trying not to type, "LOL.")

        Does this not sound like a COVERUP of something that John Wheeler might have been onto? The Defense Dept was developing high tech cyber war weapons without authorization and were failing to report it to the Senate? Whose money were they using? Who were they reporting to? Sounds to me like this secret operation could produce a motive for murder. Caveat: If Wheeler was murdered over this, it could be a MITRE rival. Could be a "rogue" group in the Defense Dept, or within MITRE or other MIC corps. Could be related to Wheeler's murder in ways we can't even guess at. I'm not pointing the finger at anybody. I'm saying that a secret op, kept from the Senate, directly related to Wheeler's work, could produce a motive for murder.

        And the more I find out about Wheeler's murder, the more I think that it was a sophisticated operation and had some such motive.

        Below from Yahoo News:
        Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press – Wed Jan 12, 5:15 pm ET

        Senators say military cyber ops not disclosed

        This was linked at DU as background.

        Just an FYI.

        •  What was John Wheeler III doing at the Mitre Corp? (0+ / 0-)
          From Veterans Today
          Military Veterans & Foreign Affairs Journal

          John P Wheeler III: Former Special Asst to Air Force Sec, Member of Council on Foreign Relations, Consultant to Mitre Corporation Found Dumped in Landfill

          January 3, 2011 posted by Managing Editor · 76 Comments

          What was John P Wheeler III doing at the Mitre Corporation? And why was he found dead New Year’s Eve at the Cherry Island Landfill?

          Editor’s note:  This may be the suspicious death of all time.  I will be looking for clues over the next few days.  Those of you, you know who you are, get me what I need to make this right.

          MITRE Corporate Profile:

          MITRE manages Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs): one for the Department of Defense (known as the DoD Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence FFRDC), one for the Federal Aviation Administration (the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development), one for the Internal Revenue Service and U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (the Center for Enterprise Modernization), and one for the Department of Homeland Security (the Homeland Security Systems Engineering and Development Institute). MITRE also has its own independent research and development program that explores new technologies and new uses of technologies to solve our sponsors' problems in the near-term and in the future.

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