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  •  Do they get paid sick days? (3+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, erush1345, Wham Bam

    If so, then getting a note saying they were sick so they could get paid, rather than using a vacation day or an unpaid day off, is dishonest.  Maybe fraudulent.  

    Most employers who pay employees for sick days require a doctor's note for more than one day off if the employee wants pay as a sick day.  I don't know what their contract says.  

    •  Yes, they do get paid sick days (2+ / 0-)
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      Julie Gulden, Dirtandiron

      and they either have to take the days they were not at school as UNPAID, or, if they were sick, then they have to have a doctor's excuse to get paid.   Anyone who brings in a doctor's "excuse" is going to have to have a SIGNED letter from a physician licensed to practice in the area.  Physicians in this area are NOT going to just hand out "get out of jail free" excuses to their patients.  They just don't do it.  I worked in a 5000 employee private, non-profit health care setting in Madison for 20+ years.  Physicians do NOT LIE about the status of their patients for ANYONE.  Trust me!   They're not going to risk their reputations to do so.  And by the way, stamped signatures are NOT acceptable.

      If the people stay united, they cannot be defeated. Solidarity!

      by 3goldens on Sat Feb 19, 2011 at 05:52:46 PM PST

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      •  What's the penalty for taking a personal day (1+ / 0-)
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        without the required 3 days notice?

        •  That I don't know. (2+ / 0-)
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          Dirtandiron, erush1345

          If it resulted from an emergency, it would likely be handled differently by the building principal; if it was something NOT urgent and unexpected, however, I don't know what their contract says.

          If the people stay united, they cannot be defeated. Solidarity!

          by 3goldens on Sat Feb 19, 2011 at 07:07:58 PM PST

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      •  Um, I hate to suggest this (2+ / 0-)
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        ballerina X, erush1345

        but you might want to actually look at the video that Fox News  and others have.  ( Here's a story  from a Wisconsin news station confirming it. )

        If you can bring yourself to look at Fox News (it's difficult, I know), what they have is a video of a person (they say it's a producer) miked up actually getting a note.  It's a pre-printed form.  The protester fills in name and birth date, and the dates they were "sick," and the person who says he/she is a doctor signs it and puts a medical license number.  

        Fox News is now reporting that they have checked the name and medical id of one of the doctors who signed such a  note and they gave, on the air, the name of the clinic where the doctor worked.  

        Like I said, now it's not just Fox News reporting it.  It's pretty clear it is actually happening.  

        •  Those who got them (1+ / 0-)
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          should tear them up. No harm. No foul.

          This has absolutely nothing to do with the larger issue.

        •  I checked into the supposed medical note (3+ / 0-)
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          417els, NancyK, tardis10

          shown here
          and noted that it seemed very fake to me - I work for a Dr's surgery in Aus but medical certs usually have some universal similarities.
          1. there is no stamp - most places if they do not use a pc generated certificate will use an inked stamp to guard against fraudulent use of certificate pads.
          2. There is no line for a general reason given for the cert - even with privacy concerns there is usually some sort of medical terminolgy used to describe the medical reason for the cewrt.
          3. The license number - I could not make it out clearly but the lice. # looked like a 37778 or a 37770. I went to the MD license lookup page for Wisconsin and these were the results for those 2 MD license numbers ( the number is too shjort to be valid in any case )

          expired and the Dr is in Or.

          Expired and the Dr is in Il.
          James Shropshires license is 33770-20

          I would wage a bet that either some fool is punking folks or that some nefarious types are creating news.

          Political Compass -3.62 / -4.56

          by sis on Sun Feb 20, 2011 at 01:22:20 AM PST

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        •  Fox News reporting they have (1+ / 0-)
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          "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

          by tardis10 on Sun Feb 20, 2011 at 02:26:19 AM PST

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