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    erush1345

    FUCKING DIFFERENCE...CURRENT IMMIGRANTS CAME HERE ILLEGALLY AND WILLINGLY...NOT IN CHAINS!!!

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    by dvogel001 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 08:31:19 AM PST

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    •  My apologies (3+ / 0-)
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      If you read this as me making an argument that current efforts to steal labor are just like slavery. It is not an argument that I am making or intend to make. Slavery was a horror that stands apart. Although the neo-Slavery system of convict leasing from 1868 through World War II had aspects that were just as bad as the slavery of the Antebellum South.

      The connecting point I was making was about the theft of labor and not that all ways to steal labor are the same. They are not, but they are connected by a desire by some to steal the labor of others.

      If my prose is not clear, please accept my apologies. It would be my error to not make my meaning clear.

      And for current immigrants, it is true that come some willingly, but if you read the reports of modern slavery you'll find that there are others who have actually come in chains or been put in chains as soon as they got here.

      The past is never past.

      Time to clean up DeLay's petri dish! Help CNMI guest workers find justice! Learn more at Unheard No More.

      by dengre on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 09:50:56 AM PST

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      •  Underpaying labor and enslavement... (1+ / 0-)
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        are 2 very different things...I find the moral equivalence disgusting...sorry

        Underpaying labor through union busting can stand on its own as an evil without comparing it to slavery..../peace

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        by dvogel001 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 10:44:59 AM PST

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        •  I have no disagreement with you (3+ / 0-)
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          The connection between the two is the desire to steal labor and that was the point I was trying to make. Again, apologies if it has become muddled by history and rhetoric.

          Cheers and peace.

          Time to clean up DeLay's petri dish! Help CNMI guest workers find justice! Learn more at Unheard No More.

          by dengre on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 11:31:35 AM PST

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