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  •  Not sure that I agree re letting RW take up all (2+ / 0-)
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    Dood Abides, mallyroyal

    the air time - I'm not sure what more could be done about this if we agree that MSM is corporate-controlled.  I watch MSNBC quite a bit and I think that theme now getting out is that the public employees have basically said that they will bargain - so why is Walker still harping on collective bargaining rights?  Not sure about how this is playing on CNN - but will try to watch.  Since I can't stomach Fox, Morning Joe is the only show where I get to see how the other side is framing issues - and if you watch the entire show, in many instances, the progressive point of view often emerges.  Carl Bernstein was on this morning and by the end of the show, Joe's B.S. had softened considerably.  Joe is a bully but he does so little homework on issues, that the truth often emerges on his show.  

    Re being afriaid of the fight, I think it is very complicated.  I live in NJ and the public sentiment, while misinformed, lacking critical thinking skills, and plain wrong, is not firmly on the side of the teachers union.  In my humble opinion, the public bluster is less important than doing the things that can get and keep the people who will act in your interest in office.  As my husband's grandfather used to say, "look at what people do, not what they say."  NJ Dems and unions were not successful in our last election cycle in this regard - which is why we are stuck with Christie.  Just my opinion.

    •  Are you blaming unions? (1+ / 0-)
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      Dood Abides

      Seemed more like a Corzine issue to me, with the WH punting early the stimulus and failing in HIR messaging, creating a very bad early precedent to me.

      But on MSNBC, they are talking up the "compromise" of getting rid collective bargaining.  They are not stating anything good about teachers or unions.  They have accepted and are actively promoting the basic frame.  And I have yet to hear a Democrat outside of Ed/Rachel/Russ or someone on the ground in Wis.  counteract it, on the centrist network, much less CNN or FOX.

      "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

      by justmy2 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 08:58:43 AM PST

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      •  not blaming unions at all - but I think they have (1+ / 0-)
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        Dood Abides

        a messaging issue too.  Whether you agree or disagree, when unions (I'm thinking of NJ teachers and Newark Police) reject pay freezes and then people have to be laid off, the public sentiment is not on their side.  I think this was a trumped up, bullshit choice that was given in the case of NJ teachers - esp when Gov Christie could have put raised some taxes on very high income people - but I understand that my opinion is WAY in the minority.  (in the case of Newark police, I just don't know where the city can get additional income from - it damn sure ain't coming from the state).  I don't have the answers but somehow we've got to gain the upperhand re public sentiment.  I do think that the protests in WI are helping in this regard.

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