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    to expect a Democratic president to speak up on this most fundamental Democratic issue. Asking him to do so is not equivalent to supporting Scott Walker.

    •  I get a little bothered (2+ / 0-)
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      when I read a quote like (talking in Cleveland today about community colleges working with local businesses), ""What it means is that if you go through this program, there will be a job at the end of the day because the employers helped design the curriculum."

      That can be looked at several ways, not all of them positive.

      Jennifer Brunner for Governor of Ohio 2014

      by anastasia p on Tue Feb 22, 2011 at 11:13:25 AM PST

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      •  One of the positive ways to look at it (0+ / 0-)

        In OH we have a problem with getting people trained and then not being able to find jobs for them. Sometimes it's because everybody moves into a job area that is "hot" (like STNAs) and then by the time the training is over, so is the "hotness". Too many training in that area for that job.

        One of the things that's been working well is on-the-job training (OJT). With that, the jobs program works with an employer who hires someone for an actual long-term existing or new job, the jobs program (WIA etc.) pays a certain amount of their training costs as they get up to speed, and everybody's happy. The employer gets some money for doing something they would probably have to do anyway, the worker has a job that he/she is likely to keep, and the training dollars result in actual employment rather than a prospective (but not assured) job. BTW, the OJT program usually tries to make sure that the pay rate for these jobs is higher than the average pay rate in the area, so no minimum wage type jobs generally. I've seen OJT contracts for jobs making $80,000/year or even more (this is a good thing)

        This is a little different than CC working with employers, but they have been trying to do this for decades. While I don't particularly like the idea of the whole higher education system being considered simply vocational education, the role of community colleges has always been more vocational than the 4-year colleges, and it's very common for them to develop training programs for businesses. And they want their graduates to find jobs, so I'm not sure what the downside is here.

        FYI

        Conservation! Because the cheapest energy is the energy you don't use.

        by ohiolibrarian on Tue Feb 22, 2011 at 01:05:41 PM PST

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