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  •  I respect your opinion , Ben (2+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo, elwior

    You've been doing this a lot longer than I have. What do you think is the reason for the Koch brothers setting up shop here?

    Where are the jobs, Governor Walker???

    by Giles Goat Boy on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 09:24:54 AM PST

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    •  Not sure, but I'm near certain this isn't it. (2+ / 0-)
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      Giles Goat Boy, GrumpyOldGeek

      I was actually looking into doing a deal for one of these plants 6 months ago,at UW River Falls, for conversion to a biomass gassifier. The elected County Supervisor (dkos user norahc) representing the campus asked me if it would work to use the scrub they trim beside County roads, which alone would be half the energy input to run the campus. We figured the whole deal could have been done for $ 3-5 million.

      Take over your own State Capitol. we got this one covered. We're in the Rotunda, 'til we take Scott Walka Unda.

      by ben masel on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 09:57:31 AM PST

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      •  I got negative vibes from another (0+ / 0-)

        potential investor, not for River Falls, but for other hydro plants. They needed a lot more work to get them back into service and maintainable.

        He's found much better opportunities elsewhere.

        Don't give up on the gassifier idea. Maybe closer to the biomass that arrives at a landfill, too. It's big for PR and teaching some power engineering and green technology to students here in New England. $3-5 million is not expensive. Consider a couple of smaller plants to grow the plan.

        It's certainly possible to find interested parties. We have a few towns interested in reclaiming control over power production. It's tough to do because of the terrain and all the trees hanging over the distribution plant everywhere. It's hard to go underground in granite that freezes and breaks things all the time. Yet towns that are strapped to pay for just one cop see savings in going "off-grid". Even with the high maintenance costs, the power generation savings are big.

        I know it's possible. There are wind towers going up just north of Gardner, MA. That's just plain astonishing from NIMBY Yankees.

        "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

        by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 11:09:22 AM PST

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