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  •  Exactly, wytcid... (0+ / 0-)

    I feel the same about the Greens, women, gays, people of color, as well as labor...

    We don't "need" a proliferation of separate parties to represent all those various interests...we need a truly democratic Democratic Party, which will not be manifested through boycott or splitting.

    Then, and only then, we'll be able to really advance and surge forward, on all of the urgent issues confronting us.

    "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

    by Radical def on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 11:56:40 AM PST

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    •  that ain't gonna happen (0+ / 0-)

      as long as dems maintain their right of center positions or move further right.

      the only way it will happen is if the party moves left and actually counter-balances the even further rightwing re-thugs.

      blink-- pale cold

      by zedaker on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 01:51:07 PM PST

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      •  Agreed, in principle... (0+ / 0-)

        But that is most certainly not going to happen by means of electoral boycott, or splitting.  It requires voting out the reactionaries, and electing relatively, more or less, "better" Democrats, to block the right from power.

        Indeed, the sole reason Blue Dogs and Republicans have succeeded, over these many years, in dominating US politics, has been due to low voter turnout.

        Indeed, the Only way the right has managed to seize and hold the power has been by dedicating considerable resources to the suppression of likely Democratic voter turnout, by hook and by crook.

        Indeed, I think a substantial and integral part of that deliberate right wing anti-democratic campaign has included covert infiltration and manipulation of popular democratic venues, including the left, to deliberately sow cynical defeatism and demoralization, and to promulgate electoral boycott and splitting lines, as a supposedly (false) "revolutionary" practice, which can only, ultimately, serve the interests of the right.

        "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

        by Radical def on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 02:28:25 PM PST

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        •  this part... (0+ / 0-)
          It requires voting out the reactionaries,

          is very correct, but this part...

          and electing relatively, more or less, "better" Democrats, to block the right from power.

          doe not follow logically from the first part when the party is not nominating or supporting "better" Dems. that isn't the fault of voters who don't believe the Dems represent their interests anymore than re-thugs do. it's the fault of the Dems themselves not maintaining their positions as the party of working Americans and fair play. it's the fault of vote-blue-even-when-the-candidate-is-an-asshole-DINO thinking. that kind of thinking and voting cannot help but lead to what we have today.

          FWIW, the splitting happens prior to voting when the platform is split and watered down by yellow-dog thinking that allows blue-dog and DINO candidates.

          blink-- pale cold

          by zedaker on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 03:16:47 PM PST

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