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  •  I'm convinced that Goodell (4+ / 0-)

    and the owners are running the Republican Party playbook (pun intended) on hypocrisy and doublethink here by pretending to care about player safety and retirement benefits while simultaneously not compromising on the 18 game season.  Only a Republican would find that more games and player safety are not mutually exclusive.

    •  If they want 4+18, then they are being (1+ / 0-)
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      hypocrites.

      But I've heard that the plan is to make it 2+18, which isn't much more of a burden than players already have.

      If 4+18 is the plan, though, then I am squarely with the players.

      We don't want our country back, we want our country FORWARD. --Eclectablog

      by Samer on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 07:46:47 PM PST

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      •  The last I read it was 2+18 (3+ / 0-)
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        My problem with that is the pre-season really gives the rookies a shot when the season isn't on the line. With 16-18 games, every game counts.

        The stars and starters barely play much past the first pre-season game. Or as I heard on a lead  up to the Colts' final pre-season game a few years ago, "fans of Jim Sorgi are in for a treat tonight." Taking away pre-season games limits the chances ot the overlooked, low-draft and un-drafted players who might have talent anyway.

        Sure, there is a lot of grumbling that "no one watches pre-season games so they don't make any money." Of course, try catching a pre-season game. "No one" watches, so you don't get the coverage... and that Sunday network programming in August is soooo.... thrilling.

        The NFL really should stay at 16 games and market the pre-season games better. Perhaps have them in smaller market cities that usually don't see a game. Example: the Steelers could host a couple pre-season games in Harrisburg and Erie. People in Pitt can see a game anytime, but smaller cities would fill the biggest available venue to see a pro team.

        But to the owners, it's all about bringing in moar moar moar money rather than working with the existing paradigm.

        •  One thing about vets in the preseason (4+ / 0-)

          Typically, the way it works is something like this:

          Game 1: expected starters play 1-2 series
          Game 2: through end of first quarter or so
          Game 3: through end of first half, sometimes much of the game
          Game 4: not at all

          I do agree with you, though, that it would hurt the back of the roster rookies. As an example, game 4 of the 2009 preseason for the Pats turned into The Brian Hoyer Experience, as he led the Pats' backups—who were left in a 21-0 hole by playing the Giants' starters—to a 38-27 win.

          We don't want our country back, we want our country FORWARD. --Eclectablog

          by Samer on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 08:25:46 PM PST

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    •  I'm as much an avid NFL follower as anybody (7+ / 0-)

      but I viscerally hate the idea of an 18-game season.

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:30 PM PST

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      •  Why? (0+ / 0-)

        What's The Matter With Kansas? -Nothing. Folks like to have their dreams, is all.

        by RyanBTC on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 09:48:59 PM PST

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        •  A few comments (1+ / 0-)
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          Those who have commented already on the potential problems with it more or less reflect my thoughts.

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16:42 PM PST

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