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  •  while dragging the D party to a better place (6+ / 0-)

    you need some basis that is more reliable to hang out.

    reforming the D party is a soul sapping & disorienting exercise that leaves one feeling as if he or she wandered into a hall of mirrors.

    as long as the organization works with the party to help get votes and advance a message that is a good thing.

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 06:45:55 AM PST

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    •  I would argue that... (2+ / 0-)
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      Odysseus, mightymouse

      ...trying to change the national dialog outside of the system through an organization with pretty much no power to speak of can be every bit as soul-sapping and demoralizing as working to change existing organizations.

      I don't want to seem too combative here. I am with the Coffee Party philosophically and I want them to be successful. I have just spent too much wasted time with groups that set out to change the world only to see them peter out a short time later because they weren't successful right away and began to realize how difficult it is to obtain true political power in this country.

      I am, in some ways, playing the Devil's advocate and my mind is, in fact, open. Vince and I are friends, actually :)

      To be clear, it's "EClectablog", not "Electablog".

      by Eclectablog on Sat Feb 26, 2011 at 07:56:01 AM PST

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