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  •  Senator Gillibrand sees this as a longterm fight (12+ / 0-)

    As she says:

    Despite the fact that Republicans control the House, it's crucial that we begin the debate now.

    Fighting for it now will make it more possible when we do have a pro-equality Congress.

    •  Nobody Can Fault That Logic (6+ / 0-)

      Though I don't think it's any "more" cruical now than it was two years ago.  I think it was nearly that long ago that she announced her efforts to work against DADT.

      It is good to get the debate going, to get people thinking about it... but it's hard to imagine any media attention that the issue gets in this climate won't finish with, "But of course this is meaningless symbolism, since it has zero chance of passing the House."

      ...which was the tag they put on many of the House Republicans repeal of health care stores (only with the Senate).

      In this case though, I'd be surprised if the Senator managed to get a bill to the Senate Floor, let alone pass one to send to the house.  I think we all agree here though that it's the right thing to do.

      •  Health Care Stores? (1+ / 0-)
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        Sorry... should be HCR obviously.

      •  Also no less crucial (6+ / 0-)
        Though I don't think it's any "more" cruical now than it was two years ago.
        The crucial difference is two years ago we had no Senators willing to lead the conversation.

        When I was young, I thought money was the most important thing in life. Now that I'm old - I know it is.--Oscar Wilde

        by Scott Wooledge on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 01:21:02 PM PST

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        •  ...not to mention... (4+ / 0-)

          a president unwilling to say that the law was unconstitutional.

          A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Sir Winston Churchill...Everybody can be great...You only need a heart full of grace. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

          by liberaldemdave on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 02:03:47 PM PST

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          •  Smart politicians recognize (6+ / 0-)

            when an issue has some momentum behind it it is the time to push. The DOJ's reveral, DOMA & Prop 8 being repudiated in Federal Court? A good chance of three states passing marriage equality in the next six months?

            Yeah, I'd say party head counts notwithstanding, there's some momentum behind this issue.

            Letting the wind go out the sails actually seems like dumb political strategy.

            I mean, if you really care about reaching the goal.

            When I was young, I thought money was the most important thing in life. Now that I'm old - I know it is.--Oscar Wilde

            by Scott Wooledge on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 02:26:21 PM PST

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            •  I'm Just Curious (0+ / 0-)

              Has anyone in this thread (or any other thread) suggested that we should "Let the wind go out of the sails?"

              I mean that WOULD be dumb, unbelievably dumb... I'm just not sure anyone anywhere has said that.

              •  People have repeatedly questioned (2+ / 0-)
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                the wisdom of the timing, or suggested that because it is presumably futile in this Congress, it's not a worthwhile endeavor.

                I am merely suggesting, it is a worthwhile endeavor for a Senator. She can not hurry it through the courts. But she can do what Senators do, advocate for a bill that she cares about.

                And, by posting this, she's alerted people in all 50 states such a bill exists, and might prompt them to suggest their Senators sign on, if they are not.

                When I was young, I thought money was the most important thing in life. Now that I'm old - I know it is.--Oscar Wilde

                by Scott Wooledge on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 03:34:34 PM PST

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            •  so when do you think the DOJ... (0+ / 0-)

              ...will get the memo that california is a part of the united states and stop using DOMA in the golinski case?

              http://gay.americablog.com/...
              (emph added for facepalm effect)

              The Justice Department says a lesbian federal employee should still be denied permission to add her wife to her health insurance despite the Obama administration's refusal to defend a federal law banning recognition of same-sex marriages.

              Government lawyers told a federal judge Monday in San Francisco that the administration will still enforce the Defense of Marriage Act until it is struck down by a court or repealed by Congress. They say its new position on the act's unconstitutionality is irrelevant.

              A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Sir Winston Churchill...Everybody can be great...You only need a heart full of grace. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

              by liberaldemdave on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 03:34:22 PM PST

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