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  •  Good for him (none)
    But since the objection is to calling him a Right Wing MEDIA GADFLY, I think reference to his work in that sphere is what is relevant here.

    That's what I mena by you not treating this seriously. You want to argue about smething else. I really don't know what Jarvis thinks about any of those things.  I'm speaking ONLY regarding that role.

    "Just say no to torture." -Semi-Anonymous Blogger.

    by Armando on Sat Feb 26, 2005 at 08:42:58 PM PST

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    •  Huh? (none)
      So when you call Jarvis a RIGHT WING MEDIA GADFLY you're basing this on the subset of his posts about the media that deal specifically with criticizing the Left, as opposed say to the posts about the media that deal with criticizing the Right, the FCC, the influence of religious hate groups, and the like?  

      Well, why didn't you just say so!

      •  He Has Posts (none)
        criticizing the Media for leaning right?  Criticizing religious hate groups?  Criticizing hate filled Right Wing Blogs?  Really?  Give us a link.  BTW, Is Oliver Willis wrong in saying those posts are outnumbered 10 to 1 by posts attacking the Media for liberal bias, attacking Lefty blogs, etc.?

        I don't think he is. You make it sound like they come in equal number and with equal emphasis.

        So do you get it yet? OR still not understanding?  

        "Just say no to torture." -Semi-Anonymous Blogger.

        by Armando on Sat Feb 26, 2005 at 10:07:29 PM PST

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        •  10:1? (none)
          Yes - Oliver's wrong.  I'd say he's exaggerating the numbers by about a factor of ten.  I didn't do the most scientific analysis, but I did go back through Jarvis' posts for January 2005, making a running tally as I went, and there were more posts excoriating Michael Powell, the FCC, the religious right, the EPA, and yes even George Bush than there were broadsides against the Left.

          Oliver and Jeff don't exactly play nice, so you might want to consider him a somewhat...  biased... as a source.

          •  I looked at 2004 (none)
            and found Oliver much closer to the mark.

            "Just say no to torture." -Semi-Anonymous Blogger.

            by Armando on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 04:52:16 PM PST

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            •  To be fair (none)
              You're not much of an unbiased observer yourself.
              •  Moreover (none)
                Such a determination can only be highly subjective.  For instance, does going after Dan Rather for being biased against Bush count as Jarvis blogging about "liberal media bias"?  You might say yes, but I'm not so sure.  He was out to get Bush, rolled the dice and staked his career on the authenticity of the Killian memo and lost.  

                Is it an act of ring-wing punditry to take Rather to task for letting his animus against Bush cloud his judgement (and perhaps ultimately costing us the election by taking the issue of Dubya's military record off the table)?  I don't think so.  In this case I think Rather deserves all the scorn he can get from both Right and Left.

        •  Still not understanding (none)
          I think I'm starting to understand, from your explanatory posts at BuzzMachine - this is as much about Jarvis' opinion of Daily Kos (on the "fringe left", as you put it) as it is your opinion of Jarvis.

          As far as that is concerned, well, that's none of my business...

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