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  •  it's not propaganda (3+ / 0-)

    taiwan was part of the manchu-ruled qing empire (so was mongolia), but it has never been governed by the people's republic, and has been separate from various regimes on the mainland since 1895. it has had a democratic government for the past three decades, and has governed its own affairs as an independent country (independence from japan, to be clear) for over a half century.

    •  Parts of Taiwan (0+ / 0-)

      were ruled by the empire.

      THANK YOU FOR NOT IMPEACHING PROSECUTING PROTECTING THE TERRORIST ENABLERS. I look forward to the next generation of American war criminals!

      by STOP George on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:43:30 PM PST

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      •  true, primarily the west coastal lowlands (0+ / 0-)

        it really is anachronistic to apply contemporary ideas of territoriality to seventeenth-nineteenth century qing frontier administration, to be honest. before the 1680s, though, there's not even an arguable chinese historical claim to taiwan, west coast or no.

        •  So you're saying (0+ / 0-)

          that the Republic of China has nothing to do with China?  Are there any plans to return the contents of the Look at all the cool stuff we stole on the way out museum?  What about the 38 year persecution of the original inhabitants of the island?

          I'm not saying that modern China has any particular case against modern Taiwan, but I do believe the current situation has much more to do with the aftermath of the 20th century civil war than 17th to 19th century imperialism.

          For example, if Taiwan (as Formosa) had no relationship to mainland China then why accept the Chinese UN seat and security council veto?  

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