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  •  Point is, (12+ / 0-)

    the independence of the justice department is a myth. The White House regularly exerts power over the JD -- from deciding where KSM should be tried (with Rahm trying to work out a deal with Graham) to decisions involving gay rights. I don't know if that's the way it should be; it's just the way it is, so it's selective to claim that the White House couldn't in a general way press for prosecutions of the banksters. In terms of saying so and so should be prosecuted, I'm not sure (although the White House in the form of Joe Biden had no compunction about calling Julian Assange a terrorist.)

    In any case, the problem here, as always, is the context. Had Obama been tough, instead of soft, on the banksters, no one here would have a problem with these words. But then if Obama had been tough, instead of soft, on the banksters, he wouldn't have hired the POS to be his COS. And so it goes.

    •  No, that's precisely NOT the point. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's not better if the AG noodles over people's guilt than if Obama does it or the USA does it.

      I know you're working hard to blame Obama, but you're blaming him for not doing something he shouldn't do.  Period.

      In the USA, we don't have elected officials speculating over people's guilt like they were bloggers.   Or prosecutors, either, for that matter.

      it's just the way it is, so it's selective to claim that the White House couldn't in a general way press for prosecutions of the banksters.

      Of course, people are being prosecuted, which is information that is sneered at by people who wish Daley would assert that being a bankster is a felony.  Bloggers like what bloggers do; bloggers don't care about actual prosecutions, bloggers care about someone flapping their gums.

      If you want a link, I'll look for a link. If you really want it. Just ask.

      by Inland on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:41:06 AM PST

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      •  whoops, you did again (4+ / 0-)
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        projected your Obama fixation onto me. I'm not interested in blaming Obama. I'm interested in not having the banks rec the country. Again.

        The mild prosecution of a few low-level banksters is a joke, especially compared to the diligence with which Obama-Holder has prosecuted, for example, illegal immigrants.

        There's nothing stopping Obama from announcing that bank executives should pay for what they did to the country. Nothing except his ideological and temperamental inclinations.  

        I suspect you know deep down that the banksters have gotten away with murder, but to admit such would to indirectly criticize Obama, whom you've never, not once, criticized (I shit you not, people) in more than 54,000 comments. If anyone can find one comment in there critical of Obama, I'll send you a cash prize.

        •  Heh. And you do it again. (0+ / 0-)

          First you say:

          The White House regularly exerts power over the JD -- from deciding

          Then you say you're not about blaming Obama.

          Then you go back to:

          There's nothing stopping Obama

          Not only are you blaming Obama, but you're blaming him for something NOBODY in the admin should be doing.  It's wrong for any elected official or prosecutor to noodle about prosecutions.  

          There's nothing stopping Obama from announcing that bank executives should pay for what they did to the country

          Which, of course, would be denounced as weak beer because it's not prosecutions at all, but merely setting up some vague enemy for doing some vague thing.

          But maybe you can teach him how to avoid any follow up question, like "who are you talking about" and "how should they pay" and "what crimes did they commit?"

          Because that's the thing about you being a nobody blogger who can just throw stuff out: you refuse to answer those questions, change the subject to an ad hom, and you can pat yourself on the back for having a good day, and nobody gives a shit.

          It's a little different when you don't have the power to take the fifth and you have to go back to work the next day and the question is still hanging out there.  Unlike you, Obama doesn't have the ability or the interest in declaring himself too pure to divulge details, and he has to govern, not put out weakass slogans.

          But what do you care.  You're not about helping anyone, or punishing anyhone,  you're about you patting yourself on the back because you think you've won some sort of point on the blogosphere.  You're not a very serious person.

          If you want a link, I'll look for a link. If you really want it. Just ask.

          by Inland on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 11:35:01 AM PST

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          •  +1 (4+ / 0-)
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            We're up to 54260 comments, without a critical word of Obama, which is an accomplishment actually.

            Of course I mention Obama when I talk about the issues I care about; he's president -- his name comes up.

            The difference between you and me is that I both praise and criticize him, depending.

            •  Heh. As proof you're not fixated on Obama (1+ / 0-)
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              you raise your new fixation: me and whether I'm praising Obama.  Like that's different.

              Don't worry, everyone is spellbound by your bloggy tactics, nobody has noticed that you've managed to dodge the issue of who should pay, how, and for what.

              It's really sad: you're so anxious to avoid addressing those issues, you'd rather look like a person who is obsessed about me.  Frankly, you seemed MORE serious when you were using your obsession about Obama to dodge the issues.  Using me is a little sad and icky.

              If you want a link, I'll look for a link. If you really want it. Just ask.

              by Inland on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:03:58 PM PST

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                •  You know what's great about your obsessions? (0+ / 0-)

                  That they are yours.  

                  Well, at least you're not pretending that it's about something ELSE now, so I can leave you to counting and touching doorknobs and handwashing and whatever else you're really interested in that's not politics.

                  If you want a link, I'll look for a link. If you really want it. Just ask.

                  by Inland on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:19:19 PM PST

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