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  •  Good grief (1+ / 0-)
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    while it is not uncommon to take a quote completely out of context and then spin it to your own narrative. This is a rather deft example of it.

    1) The President should not be involved with what is going on in Wisconsin. So far it has been about Walkers massive over each and the citizens of Wisconsin rightfully pushing back hard and looking like they are winning.

    Obama gets involved and wham bam it is no longer about the unions, the citizens or Walker it about Obama. And FYI Obama's numbers in Wisconsin?

    Obama’s approval rating sits at a comfortable 53%-42%, above the national average, and a nine-point improvement in the poll from November. (In November -- after the Democrats' shellacking in the midterms -- the president’s approval in the poll was split at 44%-43%.)
    (MSNBC)

    So it would appear that in Wisconsin they are not unhappy with Obama quiet approach.

    Next as to the not leading bit. From another part of the article

    Frustrated Democratic lawmakers and interest groups have been railing to White House aides that Mr. Obama is forfeiting opportunities to draw the public’s attention to what the Republicans’ cuts would mean for programs popular with most voters, including the coveted independents. The aides respond that the time will come for Mr. Obama to join the attack, should Republicans press their agenda and refuse to compromise.

    “One of the lessons of the last two years is that if the president weighs in all the time, it’s less impactful,” said Dan Pfeiffer, who remains as the communications director. “But if he weighs in at a moment of his choosing when the public is paying attention, it will be more influential.”

    [emphasis added]

    In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.

    by jsfox on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:07:29 PM PST

    •  Perhaps you missed my point (0+ / 0-)

      My point is that Obama is not going to get involved in Wisconsin or other domestic issues while they were occurring. On this point, we both agree.

      Obama has his reasons, and his spokespeople have addressed some of them. Other analysts have also provided a few: "Obama doesn't want to turn Wisconsin into a Obama vs Walker  showdown," for instance.

      Those reasons may be good; they may be bad. But he won't get involved. Those of us who continually aver that Obama should "get involved" are hoping a fruitless hope.
      The very line that you highlight at the end of your last quote affirms my contention. "He's going to wait until everyone else has made up their minds."

      This is a problem for us. Okay, people in Wisconsin are happy with Obama. What about the rest of the Democrats and Independents, who are wondering what is going on? They want to fight back, as well. They are waiting for someone to tell them what will work. Obama may take a position - after all the fighting is over. How much ground will we have lost in the meantime? By the time Obama decides what approach to take, is he going to walk back all the programs and issues he has already given away?

      We can't keep waiting for Obama (the natural choice for the Democratic leader) or anyone else. They aren't coming. That is my point.

      The Money Party has a massive plan, which they are enacting in many locations, and on many issues, all at once. Each one of their representatives has a part to play in this assault. It is an assault, as well-planned as a military campaign.

      We have no general. We have no multi-billionaire banker. We have no war chest. We have no coordination. Each one of our individual "defense forces" is under attack - Planned Parenthood, NPR.

      If we were an invaded country, how long would it take for us to be subdued? How long after that until the individual pockets of resistance banded together with a simultaneous, country-wide response? How are we supposed to put that together?

      Yes, it sounds harsh to hear someone say Obama won't be leading on domestic issues. It's not a slam; it's just the truth.

      Democracy *means* Anti-Plutocracy. Democrats, be true to your Self and win!

      by Louise on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 07:17:46 PM PST

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