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  •  I don't know why it keeps coming back... (3+ / 0-)
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    to "personal" and the things people say and hurt feelings and all that. I'm not talking about any of that. I don't really take it personal. None of the people verbally attacking me know me. They just keep repeating the same things even though all of the things they repeat have been rebuffed and prove false. That is what it is. They do it to others too.

    I'm not talking about that.

    I'm talking about the ratings, which affects user ability here.

    There isn't mojo for no reason. And, from what I gather, there is autoban that can be enacted by way of ratings.

    So, I don't really accept this:

    IOW, you can be as right as rain and it won't make a bit of difference.
    While participation here can be considered however small or irrelevant... it is clearly relevant enough to those who are regular users and contributors in more than a positive way.

    And failure to do anything in the face of abuses can make the difference between someone being able to continue to participate in the same way... or in any way at all. Nobody should robbed of TU status or the like by way of abuse... or be bullied off, whether verbally or by way of ratings. Nobody, no matter the user.

    That's what I'm trying to get. Abuses. And how to respond.

    And what I keep seeming to encounter from others is "don't".

    I'm having a tough time with this, because I've not been known to do that in life. I've been known to push back against abuse. And bullying.

    And it's largely because I've learned that failure to do otherwise will only allow it to continue.

    More and Better Democrats

    by SJerseyIndy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 08:46:38 PM PST

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    •  Perhaps. (1+ / 0-)
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      And perhaps those that disagree with you see your actions as bullying.

      I guess you're wise enough to judge what level you wish to 'fight' and what that means in regards to your involvement here on Daily Kos.

      Yes, it is all a matter of perspective...from my perspective I wonder who will be the bigger person and who will still be around in a year to promote democratic interests.

      Good luck in deciding that choice.

      Garrhgsfsafasd! or...where the heck is Lieber?

      by Hedwig on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 08:51:46 PM PST

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      •  Well, we could get to specific examples. (3+ / 0-)
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        I'll cite a very easy one: insulting name-calling.

        In the FAQ (which I'm assuming is considered somewhat relevant and important as it's one of those bigger links up top), there is a very clear link to a comment by the (former?) community moderator regarding insults. It's quite simple. They are not to be uprated, as it encourages bad behavior. And, boy, has it.

        So, if an insult is seen and uprated by a user, is that compatible with site standards?

        More and Better Democrats

        by SJerseyIndy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 09:00:14 PM PST

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        •  Not sure of (0+ / 0-)

          your situation but I'm guessing that the lean is a foreign group.

          i.e. A discussion in a group that others come into.

          Doesn't matter...just matters if you want to waste your time in those diaries.

          Fine if you are polite and have a distinct point but if it's just to be 'right' then you might want to spend your time elsewhere.

          Just from my POV, I don't enter comment sections where nothing I say can effect anything that is said there.

          Ignoring insults and sticking to issues is a good thing.

          Good luck with that.

          Garrhgsfsafasd! or...where the heck is Lieber?

          by Hedwig on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 09:53:32 PM PST

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          •  I appreciate you taking the time... (0+ / 0-)

            with the back and forth... but...

            are you purposely trying to miss my point? Or just not really reading what I'm typing because you've already made up your mind on something?

            It's not about not going into diaries to waste time. Or entering comments sections.

            Frankly, many of the times it occurs it is in diaries I haven't even bothered to read... either the diary or the comments section.

            One needn't red the diary or comments to see clear instances of abuse going on by way of hiddens.

            And that's the point... as clearly as I can make it:

            How is one to respond to seeing abuses of the ratings system by way of hiddens, which can sometimes reveal wrongful HRs as well as uprates of insults?

            And your answer, outside of seemingly missing the point, seems to be "do nothing", as I have previously stated I would not accept... mostly because bullying is not right... but also because the ratings system here is supposed to mean something if it's our device to serve as TUs and help in community moderation.

            More and Better Democrats

            by SJerseyIndy on Thu Mar 10, 2011 at 07:04:56 AM PST

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