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  •  Well, we needed a short term fix to the (0+ / 0-)

    many problems we have currently and what was done was much needed understanding that we would not have been able to pass any kind of stimulus.

    A friend pointed out, what good is marriage equality if we don't take care of the fierce urgency of now when our people are dieing of aids and we are short in funding for ADAP (AIDS Drug Assistance Program) to extend lives today. We need to yell louder for the short term fixes just as for the long term issues that will sustain us.

    ...We have many more issues that bind us together than separate us!

    by ThisIsMyTime on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 08:27:19 AM PST

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    •  Had the cuts for the wealthy (1+ / 0-)
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      expired, there would be money to fund unemployment, AIDS programs and much, much more.  

      The Deal was not unlike going to a payday loan shark - always puts you further behind even if it gives the illusion at the moment that you're going be able to stay afloat.

      •  How are you going to pass a law that will fund UI (1+ / 0-)
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        when the house votes NO on it regardless of how much money we would have gotten out of letting the extension expire?

        I wrote this diary about the deal siting a lot of credible resources while it also has a meta. Forget the meta but look into the substance of what others were saying about the deal.

        I understand our problems are deep rooted and require bold  actions. However, don't forget we have feckless lawmakers to move us in the direction we want to go. The most important thing at least what matters to me is that I will take any kind of progress than being defeated to see the kind of shit the People of WI are faced today.

        ...We have many more issues that bind us together than separate us!

        by ThisIsMyTime on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 08:57:44 AM PST

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    •  Look up "selling birthright for a mess of pottage" (1+ / 0-)
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      The real villain in that story is Jacob, of course.  He is willing to blackmail his brother, forcing his brother to go hungry or give up his birthright.

      (Jacob == Republicans in the analogy)

      However, Esau made the wrong decision.  He NEEDED that pottage, short term.   He really needed it -- he was going to go hungry without it!  But giving up his long-term rights for it was unutterably stupid.  He suffered for years due to that.

      Trading a 1-year extension of unemployment benefits for a 2-year extension of the Bush tax cuts is exactly like that.  If the times were exactly the same on the two, so that they expired simultaneously, it might have been a deal which would have worked.  Instead, it was a net loss for the good guys.  Better short term pain now than long-term loss and short term pain in a year.

      In fact, I never really understood this Bible story until Obama and the Congressional Democrats took the role of Esau and sold out their birthright for a mess of pottage.

      Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

      by neroden on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 09:35:10 AM PST

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      •  Cool...you went biblical on me and I have (0+ / 0-)

        to put a different thinking cap to recall my Sunday school teachings. Obviouly, in you eyes, it is the wrong deal and I disagree with your sold out analysis.

        However, the Pew Research Center has a different observation of other peoples opinion on the plan too as 63% of Democrats approve of it, as do 62% of Republicans and 60% of independents approve of the plan. This is just to show that there is a wide verity of opinion out there. If a decision made by the White House was something that will make everyone happy, I would say we would indeed have a magician.

        Other things you might want to look at also is when UI runs out in a year, how many of these people had  already gotten a job because the deal? As per

        Mr. Zandi, Chief economist at Moody's Analytics estimated that the deal could cause an acceleration of growth to 4 percent next year and help create 1.6 million jobs, drawing the unemployment rate down from 9.8 percent to 8.5 percent by the end of the year.  

        Most importantly, for something that has been done, what good does it do to ridicule the President and the administration all year long? I think we need to focus on the things that bind up together than separate us.

        ...We have many more issues that bind us together than separate us!

        by ThisIsMyTime on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 10:44:37 AM PST

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