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    •  Idea climate change caused Japan's earthquake (6+ / 0-)

      isPREPOSTEROUS!

      Advancing this half-baked theory is irresponsible and helps critics to discredit all modern climate science as wild eyed speculation.

      Shame on you!

      "We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children"

      by Lefty Coaster on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 01:29:52 PM PST

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    •  When I saw this thread at Fox Nation (7+ / 0-)

      I thought it was a ridiculous fabrication to discredit climate science and science in general.

      The Left Blames Earthquake, Tsunami on Global Warming

      I thought no one could be stupid enough to try to make any connection between the two. Sadly I see I was wrong.

      Please delete this awful diary.  

      "We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children"

      by Lefty Coaster on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 01:47:15 PM PST

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      •  Sorry to offend Lefty Coaster (1+ / 0-)
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        forgore

        but if you are waiting for evidence on Global Warming or Climate Change that FOX News views as credible, then you'll be waiting till Hell freezes over.
        The statements made in the diary above are not quotes from Mayan calendar disaster people - they are geologists, seismologists, scientists from Greenpeace, and the USGS.
        It may make you uncomfortable that any statement on Climate Change that is outside of the mainstream could
        'discredit' the Climate Science,
        but then again, to the Right and Global Warming Deniers, Climate Science never had any credit to begin with.
        Instead of reactionary criticism, why not tackle some of the information in the diary, such as from Professor Wu or Glazner or from the researchers at Arctic Climate Impact Assessment?

      •  the diarist supplied some evidence (1+ / 0-)
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        that severe earthquakes have increased in the past decade. which is interesting to note.

        what needs to happen to test this theory is more such evidence:

        like a time series of quakes > given richter scale values (how have >5 changed with time, > 6, etc.)

        and correlation of annual global earthquakes with annual ice loss.

        that would show a lot about this theory's validity.

        don't worry about what they say at fox nation.

        they will bash the rest of us no matter what.

        An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

        by mightymouse on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 03:30:27 PM PST

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        •  Numbers of seismometers have increased too (4+ / 0-)
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          I'm sure that in areas like Greenland an increase in seismic activity due to a thinning ice sheet is probably the case. The same is probably true in localized areas undergoing drastic changes in their aquifers.

          But until an conclusive case is made resulting in a consensus among scientists, this is a topic best left in scientific and academic circles.

          "We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children"

          by Lefty Coaster on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 04:02:28 PM PST

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          •  I don't know (2+ / 0-)
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            we can talk about stuff - self-censorship is not good. we can also acknowledge there are things we don't know enough to decide good or bad on.

            it's good to skeptical of things that seem outlandish. but I actually don't know enough about how one earthquake triggers another to make a decision about this. it's an interesting concept.

            An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

            by mightymouse on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 04:05:25 PM PST

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          •  Man, this reminds me so much (1+ / 0-)
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            of a conversation I had in Seminary.  Prof said, referring to the fact that the book of John had so many different authors, "The congregation wouldn't understand.  It is best not to talk about this to those who are not theologians."

            The public is too stupid to be given the opportunity to think about this,  better wait until all the scientists all agree on it and we can just bash them for questioning Almighty Science.  The little people won't even need to look at the evidence.  We'll just dump so much data on them they will think we know what the data means.  Oh, but don't mention the computer models that don't fit our preconceptions.

            No, I am not anti-science.  I am anti-Scientist Worship.  Science gets just as many things wrong as it does right.  We ridicule the scientists we once worshiped.  There is a danger of too much faith in science.  People start to think science can solve anything, including the problems it creates in its hubris.

            Not only that...but what are the scientists keeping from us now that doesn't look good for Global Warming?  Hey, you brought it up.  Doesn't the statement, "this is a topic best left in scientific and academic circles." at least imply that this is going on now?  What else is science leaving in scientific and academic circles that is too much for the little people to understand??

            Fools are the teachers of the wise. It is foolish to disrespect one's teachers. - Old Man

            by A Voice on Sun Mar 13, 2011 at 04:14:21 AM PDT

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