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  •  I say up the ante (3+ / 0-)
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    tardis10, fumie, TheOrchid

    Counter, saying - ok, you will rescind the Bush tax cuts or WE will walk.

    And remember - a whole lot of corporate goodies go away if the government isn't paying for them.

    And commerce itself can be shut down by the Executive in time of national emergency.

    For example, since it would be impossible to regulate offshore oil drilling all wells would have to be closed for the duration.

    Since there's no way to make sure air passengers are safe, all airports and air traffic would be shut down.

    Alllll sorts of things to stop first.

    Things that hurt corporations first.

    Other possible threat: Print money (Treasury is an executive branch after all) and put inflationary pressure on assets.

    In extremis: Arrest the effing traitors and declare emergency law.

    Sorry, but this is endgame. It may be time to be a bit more daring in your patriotism and partisanship than you've been to date.

    For rest assured, Republicans are NOT shying from a fight.

    It's go time, people.

    Don't get shaky in the knees now.

    •  No (1+ / 0-)
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      WHATEVER happens the dems should not precipitate the shutdown. It's the Republicans who are rejecting real compromise and playing poker with our nation's security and economy. Let them face the tremendous political backlash that a shut down will bring. The republicans in their extremity are walking into a political trap. Just like in 1995, it backfired on them and it will again.

      •  The GOpers do not see how shutdown hurts them (0+ / 0-)

        or their donors.

        Enlighten them, that this is just not so.

        Enlighten them lots.

        •  We needn't care about the GOP. Just voters! (0+ / 0-)

          The audience for our response is independents and moderates, not the GOP!

          O, wad some Power the giftie gie us./To see oursels as ithers see us!

          by TRPChicago on Mon Mar 14, 2011 at 03:20:27 PM PDT

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          •  This is about power, so it's all about hurting (1+ / 0-)
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            The Republicans understand the value of hitting targets, to demonstrate strength of convictions, set sides and communicate contempt for enemies.... to those voters of which you speak.

            They understand the value of arranging their messaging to play up

            1. simple notions, not necessarily true ones
            2. repeat them many times
            3. and say them to hurt enemies (aka, we're theirs, they're ours)
            4. before an audience that gathers to watch some kick-ass
            5. and rewards with applause (votes) those who kick the most butt

            Is this a reductio ad absurdum of American poliics?

            Before 2010 I would have said yes.

            Not anymore.

            Look how Wisconsin is winning against its crazy governor:

            It's the same

            1. simple messages
            2. repeated often
            3. to disparage enemies (Walker and his pet legislators)
            4. for the benefit of Wisconsin voters
            5. who are very much in the mood for payback in the form of recall elections

            The formula works just fine for the good guys too.

      •  The difference between now and then: (0+ / 0-)

        FOX News didn't exist.

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