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  •  Question about police. (1+ / 0-)
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    One thing I've always wondered: why were the police in Michigan and Ohio so much more on the R governor's side than in Wisconsin? One of the biggest reasons why the Wisconsin protest was so successful (and, I might add, why the one in Egypt was too) was that the police were on OUR side. And even in this era of "call everybody a terrorist", taser-happy, pre-emptive law enforcement.

    Real Democrats don't abandon the middle class. --John Kerry

    by Lucy Montrose on Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 09:47:32 PM PDT

    •  It's their job (1+ / 0-)
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      That's what they were hired to do. If they didn't do it, they'd lose their job.

      To be clear, it's "EClectablog", not "Electablog".

      by Eclectablog on Thu Mar 17, 2011 at 03:35:52 AM PDT

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      •  So it sounds like the governor or boss has... (0+ / 0-)

        ... more control over the livelihoods of police in MI and OH than in WI?

        Or maybe it was the sheer numbers of protesters in WI that tipped the balance in our favor...

        Real Democrats don't abandon the middle class. --John Kerry

        by Lucy Montrose on Thu Mar 17, 2011 at 08:01:23 AM PDT

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        •  In terms of the difference between... (0+ / 0-)

          Michigan and Wisconsin, that was probably what played the biggest role with regard to "occupying" the Capitol building. There were about 100-125 people inside the building at closing time and they easily had a several dozen state police officers. This was enough to block the four entrances to the Rotunda and to make sure the doors into the Capitol were protected and that nobody else could get in.

          There was also a matter of timing. Most people were out front listening to speakers like Mayor Bernero and former Congressman Schauer (to name just a couple) right up until close to the 5:30 closing time. If there had been several hundred inside instead of just a hundred or so, they may have been able to sit down and prevent the police from removing them.

          I'm ambivalent about the utility of an "occupation", frankly. In Wisconsin, there was some chance that a new bill could be negotiatied because the Senate Dems had a loophole that allowed them to prevent it from being voted on (or so they thought). In Michigan's case, the EFM bill has already passed and the budget is sure to since we don't have a loophole to work with.

          To be clear, it's "EClectablog", not "Electablog".

          by Eclectablog on Thu Mar 17, 2011 at 08:26:20 AM PDT

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